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Sadhguru Exclusive
Secrets of Tantra
16 minutes - 1998
Location of talk: Tibet
Transcript


Female Questioner:
Namaskaram, Sadhguru. Does past life regression help in working out karma?


Sadhguru:

So, what's generally being done as past life regression is essentially a psychological process. You don't touch anything past life that way. It is just that even within the mind that you have right now there are so many layers to this which never comes into your access.


You know there are schizophrenic people. The recorded number. Actually there could be more. Medically well documented number is there have been people who have managed 32 different personalities in the same person, complete people. One man being 32 different people. These are clinically well recorded cases. There could be more.


For you as a person, for you to be the person that you are you have so much complexity of thought, emotion, this, that. Just imagine 32 like this within you, your mind can effortlessly handle it. If you ask me how many are possible, I would say 84 million personalities you can do. You can do that or more because the mind has come with that much capability. It is never really used. A schizophrenic is probably using his mental capacity far more than a so-called normal person.


So the complexity of what the mind is, is such that it can create different levels of experience for you. Mind is such, right now you are here in Tibet. You just saw a few things of Tibetan life. With this your mind can take this information and build a whole new Tibet within you, if you want.


See people are writing books, you know? Somebody came to Tibet for 10 days, he goes back and writes 500 pages which you read for 10 days and it looks like a world by itself. He was here only for 10 days. Now he created a whole new Tibet in his mind. All of it may not be true, but it doesn't matter. From the little information he got, he just multiplied it in his mind in so many different ways and it may not be totally off either, from the reality. It may be slightly off - but it's still Tibet.


So if I show you anything. You saw me now. Just using me as a subject you can write 1000 pages if you want. Human beings have the capability, isn't it? Some have developed it, some have not, but it is there in every human being.


[video cuts to a top-down view of a Tibetan Buddhist monk creating a large mandala]


So if I just give you one thought with that thought you can build a whole life. This is the whole art of Tantra. Tantra means just this - using the mind in such a way that you create such elaborate detail of everything. Now we could just work. You have a little flower or something?


The Kriya and the Pranayam and whatever Shakti Chalana Kriya and other things that you are doing are still very simple ones. There are more complex ways of using your mind. Even in this, you need to use your mind. I am sure right now at least 60% of people can never get their 7 cycles right? Yes? Am I right? Am I being cruel on you?


[Sadhguru grins at his small audience and audience laughs]


All you have to do is count up to 28, you know? 7 cycles, 4 mudras. I would say at least 60% of the people won't get it right. They'll always get mixed up, beyond 3-4 they're gone. [audience laughs]


When I watch a person doing it, I know they are gone. If you do this everyday, everyday now you train your mind a certain way.


[Sadhguru leans over and grabs a handful of what looks to be a certain type of tall grain grass bundled together and looks down at the handful]


This is too much creation for you. [said looking directly at the bundle of long grass]

I wanted something more simple, but okay.

[Sadhguru picks out one long grain grass from the bundle and puts the rest aside. He then holds up the specimen for the audience]


Okay, this is just - let's take it here. Okay? Just this much, the last part.
[holds it about 3 inches of stem from the grain but makes sure to keep the entire grass, grain and long stem intact]


All of you can see this, right? [Raises it up high for the audience]

Maybe you can't see the whole detail but I am sure you have seen this many times in your life. So I will give you 3 minutes.


Close your eyes and recreate this in total detail in your mind. Start from the bottom or start from the top and slowly create this whole thing in your mind, let me see.


[video cuts to various close-up scenes of various kinds of tall grain grasses waving in the wind]


Sadhguru: Okay. Are you managing? You know being a creator is a hard job. How much attention it must have taken if just one piece of grass is taking so much attention? And every bit of it is unique. No repetition, no carbon copies anywhere. So what you call as creation or the Creator - the source of creation is a phenomenal dimension of attention. Just from within, this body slowly got created, every cell, every detail within. Do you know how much attention it would have taken? You think it happened without attention?


Does it look like this happened [Sadhguru grins and spreads his arms wide] without attention? Tremendous amount of attention has gone into it, isn't it? If that attention became conscious then you are aware - otherwise it's only mental alertness.


Mental alertness can do things. Many incredible things it can do. In the physical plane of life, mental alertness can do incredible things. It can create a world by itself.


So Tantra is a science where they started working with the mental attention to such a point that you can create a whole new world if you wish.


[Video cuts to a snow-capped mountain]


So Kailash is known as the Tantric mountain and Tibet is known as the land of Tantra. It did not originate here. All the initial gurus who came and brought the Tantric process to Tibet were from India.


[Video cuts to a famous painting of the 8th century Indian Buddhist and Abbot of Nalanda (Nepal) - Santaraksita]


So he came and he started the process to some extent but he was more Buddhist than Tantric.



[my note: that means he was more into the fully internalized path of Yoga than the ceremonial ritual path which is Tantra. Yes, that makes what JMG teaches in his many books a Western-Druidic Tantra lineage, not a Yoga lineage]


Later on, when he realized that it is not really taking people off their old occult practices into a spiritual process then he went in search of a right kind of teacher who could do this and in a completely different realm. There is very mystical background to the birth of Padmashambhava (Guru Rinpoche).



He (the Abbot) found Padmashambhava as an 8 year old boy who happened to be sitting on an island which could...(pauses)...may not be an island as we know it.



[Video cuts to show a tall brass statue in Tibet of a fierce looking man in ornate headdress, robes and ornate staff]


Land, water, island - not in that sense. It might have been a completely different realm altogether. He found this boy sitting with a diamond in one hand and a lotus in the other hand. So, it is from this the Vajrayana Buddhism came which is purely Tantric.


It is remnants of that what you see as Tibetan Buddhism today. It is a very...(pauses)...what to say? It is a socially convenient concoction of mixing Buddhism and Tantrism because Tantrism by itself would have never found acceptance in the society because they (ie the Tantrics) are no-holds barred people. Buddhism is very straight and clean.


So Padmashambhava, a clever master, he mixed these two in right proportions. Buddhism was just a camouflage. Tantra was the real thing that he brought in. So after some time when you are not able to...generation to generation...when you are not able to keep the aliveness of the science then the surface becomes the real thing.


If...let's say yourself..you joined the Army. If you join the Army here, you will join the Chinese Army and you wore this uniform and every day you walked up and down or took the gun and you walked in front of us every day. Initially you will see, "Oh, this guy has become a soldier. This guy has become a soldier." After some time, slowly, slowly you become a soldier in our mind...that person that we knew will slowly disappear. The uniform you wear becomes you that's what happened. These were Tantrics who wore the Buddhist uniform because without that they wouldn't have found social acceptance and they did phenomenal things which would have never been done with simple meditative processes of releasing you from suffering and those kinds of things. They did phenomenal acts.


And...but from generation to generation, when the science died, the uniform remained. That's what you see today. Still there is some flesh inside. Not totally lost but mostly lost.


And...(heavy sigh)


And what's being done in terms of taking life back to its works...see suppose you are driving a Toyota. For you a Toyota means like that, you know it looks like that. [Makes hands to indicate a car] Now you have gotten the shape of the Toyota in your head. At least the back of the Toyota (audience laughs). Yes, because you're constantly staring at some Toyota's backside. It's clear to you that's how a Toyota looks. This is how it looks on the road. This is how it looks even if it goes to the local garage, but if you take it to the manufacturing place a Toyota looks different.


A Toyota is doing what it is doing, not because of the way you see it - because of the way somebody else sees it in the works. Yes, do you understand what I am saying? So similarly a human being means he looks like this. A man means looks like this. A woman means looks like that, ant means looks like that, elephant means looks like that. That is just like seeing the backside of the Toyota. If you take it to the works life at its works looks completely different. Yoga means taking life back into the works. In that dimension what's been done here is so phenomenal.


Ironically this all started in the Indian subcontinent and still is active in some minimal way but mostly got wiped out because the word Tantra was taboo because people misunderstood it as something else.


So when, in the 12th-13th century when the Muslim invasion came, they just slaughtered anything that is Tantra. If anybody was known to be somewhere associated with anything Tantric he was just instantly extinguished because these people were considered anti-God. Because God is the only creator. You can't mess with creation. That's their idea.


[video cuts to various old paintings of muslims slaughtering Indians]


They left milder parts of religion which they said, "Okay, you worship some nonsense, it's alright. But if you're getting too deep into it, you shouldn't live." With that attitude they took it off. And later on when the British came with their very prudish Victorian ideas they also stamped it out wherever they could. So very small remnants of it are left and now the American authors are completely distroying it by distorting it in the most horrible ways. Because of this, this absolutely fabulous dimension of life has got derailed completely.


So...I won't go by this, but if I go by the present thought process of my mind this is where I should come and live. (ie Tibet where this talk is being recorded)


Right now my thought is like that. If I give way to that, this is where I should be living, not somewhere down because...this is something else. It's not that we don't have good stuff going, we have great stuff going but this is really freaky challenge.


[Video cuts to show the mountains of Tibet and Nepal. Sadhguru is raising hands in praying palms gently touching his forehead and facing Tibet and Nepal]


Sadhguru:

It's truly out of the world. Not just as a statement. It's truly out of the world. Maybe this is where that expression arose. If that expression makes any sense anywhere, it is here. This is really out of the world.

Sadhguru Youtube
The Four Parts of Mind
13:21 minutes - uploaded: May 27, 2015
Partial video of a series of longer interviews always titled:
In Conversation with the Mystic
Interviewer: Vinita Bali
Transcript

Vinita Bali Q: So, Sadhguru, what is a creative mind?

Sadhguru A: Oh! How big an answer do you want? (Smiles at Interviewer)

Vinita Bali: As big as you want it.

Sadhguru A:

See the English word 'mind' doesn't say anything because it's just one generic word which does not describe different dimensions of what the mind is. Mind is not just one something sitting here (gestures) and doing something, ok? There really is no such thing as mind.

In the Yogic culture there is no mind. There is a physical body, there is a mental body because what you are calling as mind right now is a certain combination of memory and intelligence. There is memory in your body. More memory in your body than you can imagine. If I have to get at you again, it's ok. I'm picking on you.

You definitely don't remember how your great-great-great-great-great-grandmother looked like but her nose is sitting on your face right now. Yes?

Vinita Bali: Yes.


Sadhguru: You don't remember a thing consciously but your body remembers 100%. How 10 generations ago, your grandmother was, your body still remembers. A million years ago, how your forefathers were, your...still your body remembers, isn't it? It's not forgotten and it's not going to forget. Your mind is not capable of this kind of memory. Your body has a trillion times more memory than your so-called brain.

This whole shift towards the brain and intellectual process is a European malaise. They gave too much significance to thought. This has happened because they lived under a subjugated society, religiously subjugated society where you are not supposed to think anything except what's written in some book, otherwise you are dead. They lived like this for a long time. Because of this, when they got a little freedom to think and managed to live, they started celebrating their thought too much.

Let's understand the context of thought. You can only think from the data that you already have gathered. That means you can never think anything new. You can recycle it, you can rehash it, you can produce permutations and combinations of it but you can not think something absolutely new. It is not in the nature of the thought to come up with something new. It can only recycle the past. That means if you dedicate yourself to your thought process, if you enshrine your thought process, you are ensuring nothing new ever happens in your life.


So thought need not be celebrated like this. That's why in this culture, thought is never been given so much significance. What you think is your psychological drama. We don't think much about that because it's your drama. Your drama is important for you, somebody else's drama, it's important for them, everybody thinks their drama is the most important drama in the universe. This is everybody's experience because they are so identified with their own psychological drama. This psychological drama should not determine the nature of your life because this is just a small happening compared to the life process. Life is a much deeper intelligence than intellect.

We can look at....(pauses)

The Yogic system looks at mind as 16 parts. Those 16 parts are further broken and they're taken up to 84,000 parts. But now, if I talk about 84,000 already there's a segment which says no, (turns head away from Vida and looks at that audience segment) - so I will make it 4.

I'm taking away 80, ok? (looks again at that audience segment). I'm being fair to you - only 4! (Sadhguru smiles and turns back to Vida) Four fundamental parts.


One is the Intellect, which we have in modern world, in today's world, we are unnecessarily giving too much significance to intellect and we will pay an enormous price for this. You will come to a place where you will know everything but you'll know nothing of life significance, really.


Today, you will see this happening to children. For the first time, this generation you see - 10, 11 year-old or 12 year-old children, they look bored. (Looks at Vida - who looks to be in her late 50s or early 60s) When you were 10-11, you did not (know) what is boredom, it was not possible. It was too exciting to be alive and looking around. You will see 10, 12 year-old children, all looking bored because they've seen the cosmos through their phone screen.


[Camera cuts to Vida and she nods her head in agreement]


Sadhguru continues: They know it all and especially in the western countries, you will see this happening at 8-10, they are really bored. You will see in the school buses, they are all sitting like this. (Sadhguru gets bored look on face)


[audience laughs]


Sadhguru: Bored, because by the time you are 12, you already had one love affair, you know what is a break, you know how to ...all this recover from that, you tasted alcohol, you've seen this, probably you've gone into all kinds of physical things and you know the cosmos. What more?


[Sadhguru looks out questioningly to the audience]


By the time you're 15, there's really no purpose for you to exist, for many of them.

[Looks back to Vida then back to the audience]


You should not be surprised, if this culture continues. I'm not saying this as a prediction, it is something that I see beginning to happen - in another 50 or 100 years' time, if 25% to 50% of the people commit suicide, you should not be surprised. Because life needs some exuberance.


If too much information happens to you without experience, that exuberance will be gone and a sense of...(pauses)...false sense of knowing becomes so strong in you. This is the danger of intellect because intellect wants to dissect everything.



[video cuts to Vida and she nods in agreement. Camera pulls back to show both Sadhguru and Vida on the stage]


Sadhguru continues:


Intellect is like a scalpel - the sharper it is, the better it is. It wants to dissect and know. Dissection works with some things, not with all aspects of life. If you want to know....the poor frog, you know, [looks at audience]...you remember, tsk? The poor frog that you crucified and cut and great knowledge you acquired from all that torture is unbelievable. How much knowledge you know. For the torture that that frog went through, how much knowledge you have acquired is quite unbelievable. All that you got to know.


[Sadhguru looks out to audience again]


Now you've got interest...suddenly you got interested, the mother that you had ignored, you want to know your mother today. Please get yourself a sharp knife, start the dissection. You may know everything about her liver, kidney, heart but you won't have a mother left, that's all. So life cannot be known by breaking it up. You can know physical things by breaking it up. You cannot know life by breaking it into pieces but this is the nature of the intellect. [motions toward his head]. The whole modern science has evolved from human intellect. Because it's produced technological benefits, you can't argue against it because people, you know?


Vida: Yes.


Sadhguru: They think they are scientists, they know nothing about science. They're just enjoying their iPhone. They think they are scientists because they can do this [Sadhguru imitates punching out a text message on a cellphone].


No, technology is fine, it's brought much comfort and convenience but it'll not bring life to us. So intellect is like this. Intellect will be useful only depending upon what it is identified with and what is held, what holds this, how steadily.


[My Note: Now begins the part of the talk that covers the 4 over-arching parts of every human mind which can be further examined into 16 parts then into 84,000 parts]


So the next dimension of the mind. The first one is called as Buddhi, which is Intellect.


The 2nd is called as Ahankara. Ahankara does not mean ego, this, that - it means the identity. Whatever you're identified with, your intellect (Buddhi) functions only around that. Simple, if you just identify with a nation. If you say, "I'm an Indian.", everything Indian looks beautiful. If you cross the border and you say you are something else, all that looks beautiful. So, whatever you're identified with (Ahankara), it's only with that the intellect (Buddhi) functions.



So Ahankara is the identity. How consciously and how steadily your Ahankara has been created will determine the effectiveness of your intellect. Just because it's sharp, it does not mean it'll be effective because sharp intellect or a sharp knife can cause any amount of damage to you. If you have a sharp knife and you don't have a steady hand, you will cut yourself all over the place. That's all that's happening. Human suffering is just this - you don't know how to hold this intellect in your hand properly. Every day you're cutting yourself. All suffering is on self-help because you're own mind is causing this to you all the time. No matter what happens, people suffer, whichever way, they suffer, because they don't know how to hold this intellect. If you had the mind of an earthworm, you would be quite peaceful. Yes? You're trying to do it in so many ways to reduce the sharpness of the intellect - by drink, by drug, by overeating, by doing all kinds of things - somehow to take away the sharpness because the damn thing hurts. It hurts not because that's its nature, it hurts because you do not know how to hold it.



The next dimension of the mind is called as Manas, which is a huge volume of memory. It is not here or there (indicates head), entire body carries memory. So Manomayakosha, this is called, a huge sack of memory.


[my note: literally this is Sanskrit for the Manas-Body - the Manas-Sheath]


Sadhguru continues:


This memory is in various stacks, we'll not go into all these details considering some people have said a clear no.


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Sadhguru again indicates with his hands a certain section of the audience. I get the impression he has several important, close disciples seated there who've advised him against getting too in-depth in this interview about the yogic tradition's teachings on an ordinary human mind.
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Sadhguru continues:

They don't want to have a mind, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, they don't want to know anything about the mind.

[Audience and Interviewer laugh]



So the 4th dimension of the mind is called as Citta. (alt spelling Chitta)

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my note: it's pronounced like cheetah
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Sadhguru continues:

Citta means it's pure intelligence. It is unsullied by memory, it has no trace of any kind of memory, it's just pure intelligence.


If you touch this, then you have access to what you are referring as the source of creation because all kinds of things might have been fed to you...god is this, god is love, god is compassion, god is kind, what...whatever. [Sadhguru laughs]


Somebody come, stand on the edge of this stage, say all the prayer you want to say and fall. [Points to a section of the stage]. Let me see whether compassion happens to you or a cracked bone happens to you. I would like to check, alright? All these things have been made up because whatever somebody is deprived of, they will attribute that quality to their idea of god. You're ideas of god have come only because you do not know what...how this whole creation happened. Because you don't have an answer, you made it up. Because you are human being, you said, "A big human being sitting up there. (indicates upward) Oh, how can he do all this?"


If somebody asked, he has 10 hands, so he does a lot of things not like you, whatever. It's alright for children but essentially, because you do not know how creation happened, you are coming up with explanations. So that which is the source of creation - don't believe what I say, what anybody says - pay attention to one piece of creation.


[Sadhguru picks up a flower on the table next to him]


Just take a flower, pay attention to this. Pay an attention to a leaf or an atom or an ant. All you will see is phenomenal intelligence beyond anything you can imagine. Yes? [looks questioningly at the audience]

But nobody told you, "God is intelligence." But this culture (ie Indian subcontinent) has said this to you in many ways. They told you Chidakasha , Chidambara and so many things to tell you, if you touch your Citt(a) the whole existence becomes yours. Everything that's worth knowing is right here (gestures everywhere) because you have access to the source of creation.


So these are the 4 types of your - 4 dimensions of your mind. Unfortunately, the modern education thinks by just feeding information and keeping the intellect reasonably sharp everything is going to happen.

No!

You will rip this planet apart looking for well-being, you may lose the planet or you may manage to go to another planet and start your work again there (audience laughs) but well-being will not happen. If well-being has to happen, you have to dig a little deeper into this or to one's self, otherwise, no.



*****Edit: Oops. Linked to the wrong video originally. The correct video is now linked****

Since this video is free I'm linking to the original video below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvHMiPiKao

Sadhguru Exclusive
Disembodied Beings: Possessed by a Spirit - Ep. 2 (of 6)
14 minutes - 1998
Transcript


[Video of Sadhguru sitting on a cushioned bench. Dressed in white robes and white swami-hat.]


Sadhguru:


This happened when I was just...uh...(pauses)...this was not the first time, but this is one of the things that I saw. My father's grandfather's sister


[my note: Sadhguru is saying this is the sister of his great-grandfather...thus, a great-aunt - I think this is how it's reckoned in genealogy trees].


Sadhguru continues: So her daughters, 2 of them, 1 of them [my note: I think that makes the great-aunt's daughters Sadhguru's 2nd-degree cousins according to genealogy] was visiting us when we were in Mysore. I am a 3rd, 4th standard (ie 3rd grade-4th grade in U.S. terms), what would I be? Maybe I'm 8 years of age, probably...and this girl must have been in her late teens, kind of 18-19 kind of girl and there have been so much stories about their family and possessions.


When we have gone to their house they're telling about how ghosts are walking around in their house, how they dismantle this, dismantle that, the noises that they hear and the imprints that they've seen in the house, all kinds of things. And actually they showed me a few things which really intrigued me, that, you know, like they will be sleeping and somebody will whack them, you know, that, you know, like they will be sleeping and somebody will whack them, you know, like slap them in the face and actually marks, finger marks left on their face.


They were telling this all to my father and my father just dismissed this off as nonsense and you know, he was..he is a doctor and he is like, all this nonsense he just dismisses it off, all this.


Then this girl is visiting us, many months after this thing and in the morning big commotion. She was sleeping in the same room as my sisters and she put her arms around my sister's neck like this and she slept.

[Video shows a painting of 2 girls sleeping...1 with her arm like a V-armbar over the other girl's neck]


And in the morning, like this about 7:30 - 8:00 we are supposed to leave for school, whatever you do you can't open this arm of hers. She is a very puny little girl, okay? She's just about 5 feet in height and very, very puny girl. And 3-4 people - whatever they do - she is simply sleeping like this. My sister is awake and she is screaming her head out. [audience laughs] She wants to get up but this is like steel, it's just like this. And they got - you know. they called the hospital punes to come. 2 grown men came and they're trying to literally break her arm. It just won't open.


[Video shows Sadhguru from the back as a little 8 year old watching this scene]


They're struggling with this for more than 1-1.5 hours. So my sister is crying, terrified she is, she is crying and crying but they can't release her from this grip and this girl is simply sleeping. They put water on her, they did all kinds of things, they're slapping her to wake her up - nothing. Then my mother is crying, "What's going to happen to the girl?" and you know, it's a big commotion in the house.


So I am happy we're not going to school today!


[Audience bursts out laughing, hooting and clapping. Sadhguru laughs]


We just need an incident you know? [Audience laughs some more] and here is the perfect incident and these things always intrigued me. So I am looking at this and I am too small to exert my physical strength, but these full grown men are holding (the puny girl) by the shoulder and trying to open this elbow, they can't open this elbow. All this crying and commotion is happening, then my mother goes into, you know, in India always every home has a shrine and she was initiated when she was very young and she always kept certain things going every day for herself and she went into the shrine and there was a kind of a....

Sadhguru hums thinking of his mom's guru...pauses....

kind of a yogi and an occult person mixed. He was a devotee of Hanuman, you know Hanuman? So he is a devotee of Hanuman. I have been there to this man.


[video cuts to a painting of a yogi sitting at a table hands folded with a painting of Hanuman on the wall behind him]. He was a doctor by profession and he dropped that and he turned into a complete this-kind-of-thing where people, every Sunday morning he will see people and hundreds of people will gather.


My father, 100% atheist and non-believer at that time, later on he became very devout. So when my father was maybe in his...I don't really remember his age...he must have been in his late 30s or early 40s, suddenly his blood urea rose to peak points and his medical knowledge told him that he has only a year or two left. So he became very emotional about this and I, you know, I always overheard things and he was talking to my mother and my mother was crying and he said, "Children are also young, what'll happen? I have to make this arrangement, that arrangement." As he spoke my mother was breaking up more and more. He thought he is going for sure.


So at that time, he knew him (the guru) because he was a doctor in the past, that man, and now he has turned (to) this and somebody said go to him. His name is Maruti Rao. Maruti means Hanuman. He changed his name probably or maybe that was the original name, I'm not sure. Every Sunday morning, hundreds of people gathered to see him and I went there to see him and he was all, you know, Vibhuti (consecrated wood ashes) and this and that, he would sit bare-chested and he had a kind of power about him. I liked the way the man sat there, he was something. I did not understand what he was at that time. It looked funny to me, this Hanuman worship and everything but he looked impressive, the way he was, he was impressive in his presence, in everything. So my father went to him and he said, "This is something that has happened and this is it and within two weeks I'll set this right." And as part of that he did many things in two weeks' time my Dad's blood work was perfectly ok and he was normal. So since then, my father became [Sadhguru kowtows like a devotee] a devotee. Not a complete devotee of his but he had great regard and respect for him because his education freaked him up that he thought if you have this kind of blood urea levels you must be going, but now suddenly he became perfectly ok without any treatment, with some simple things that that man did and after that he gave them a kind of a bangle. It's still there. I, you know, I made similar things later, much, much later but he made a bangle, a copper thing with copper wire wound around it and he gave it to my father, "At any time if you feel ill or anything you just keep it under your pillow and sleep, it'll become normal for you." It's only for him.


So this...because there was no use, my father was healthy so it was kept in the pooja (alt spelling - puja) room.


[video cuts to a painting of a small alter with paintings of deities, flowers and incense before each deity painting.]

So when nothing worked for this girl, somehow my mother got this idea and she just brought this and put it on the girl's other hand or something and immediately she released. The moment they put this bangle, I was witnessing this, as they put this bangle she just released and, [video cuts to painting of the two girls sitting up..one gasping for breath holding her chest..the other rubbing her eyes]...."Ha, ha," she woke up as if she's bewildered about something and then this girl is narrating everything that's happened in the house since morning. And she said, whoever possessed her told her that my mother is abusing her, who is this devil who's possessed this little girl and whatever else and all those things she's saying word by word which was not spoken in her presence and that girl was completely unconscious. Everything she is, you know, saying like as if she heard every bit of the conversation. Like this, after that I witnessed many things like this.


So there's a whole history to that family and whatever else, that's different. They were not psychologically ill, for sure. So this whole tamasha happened and after that I witnessed many other situations like this. But most of the time what I have seen, 90% of the time, these things are psychological. A little bit of it, it may be there. Rest of it, your own mind will drive you crazy. Tomorrow morning when you come out of your house, when you open your door, there is a skull and blood all over and some other this-this-this, you know.


[video cuts to painting of door house with skull and dog's tail on the front steps and blood on the ground everywhere]


Make it as weird as you can. A dog's tail and a human's skull and something else and all that stuff, now you see this, that's it. You will become ill. You will become sick, your business will go bad, everything negative will happen to you because a certain fear grips you. So most of the time, 90% of the time it is just psychological. But yes, there is a science like that, that one can use their energies negatively. One can use energies negatively to cause harm to somebody else.


What is the protection? One thing if you are on spiritual sadhana you don't bother about all those things. You don't even think about those things. Another way is, you can wear certain protections like a rudraksh, you know?

[my note: a rudraksh is a kind of rosary (mala) strung with the seeds of the rudraksh tree.]


A rudraksh is like a protection against any kind of negativity, but you need not bother about those things. You just keep your focus in life and keep going. If you are in sadhana, you just don't bother, it will be taken care of. It's mostly receded, very little of that is happening, and that little has nothing to do with you.

[video cuts to what looks like images from some b-grade spooky movies - one shows a woman chanting verses, making certain mudras then scattering something over a small pit of flames, etc.]


Sadhguru continues....


But if you live in certain areas, certain parts of the country, this is very rampant...


[video cuts again to yet more b-grade spooky movies - one of a woman shaping a voodoo doll over a grimoire and skull then sticking needles into the doll.]


...because there are a few people doing these things in those areas, so they can cause immense damage to people. One thing is if you have such impacts, you come and sit in the sphere of Dhyanalinga (ie Dhyanalinga Temple)...


[video cuts to what must be a camera-drone flying over the top of the Dhyanalinga temple. It is huge surrounded by lush green forests and mountains in the background. Video shows the various buildings around the temple and then cuts to the temple interior, etc.]


....back to transcript....


One thing is if you have such impacts, you come and sit in the sphere of Dhyanalinga, because there are occult dimensions to Dhyanalinga which just nullifies all this. There are hundreds of people who think they are possessed and all this and we just tell them, "Five minutes, ten minutes you sit there and go." They go out completely free because the occult dimensions are taken care of in the Dhyanalingam area.


[video again cuts to interior of Dhyanalinga temple but this time with ordinary people in everyday clothes (a few disciples in disciple robes too) sitting cross-legged in front of the immense alter.]


You can do it from here also. It is not necessary you have to come there, but once again it's your receptivity, you are more receptive if you are in the actual presence of it. You can just spend a little time there. If you fear that something like this has been done to you, one Pournami or Amavasya when things are more receptive for you, just one day you sit there and go, that's all. It gets taken care of.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Disembodied Beings: The Wandering Dead - Ep. 1 (of 6)
18 minutes - 1998
Transcript


When a person dies, as in life not everybody lives the same way even if you give them the same opportunity, so in death not everybody dies the same way. When I say they do not die the same way I am not talking about one died of heart attack, another died of cancer, another died crashing his car, another died hanging from a rope - I'm not talking about that.


Those are only causes of death. That's not death. You need some cause. Something has to break or time has to run out. Time running out what it means...something breaking, you know? Somebody went and had an accident, body broke, that means body became inhospitable for life. Life may still be vibrant but body became inhospitable for life so life has to exit. Your heart missed 2 beats instead of 1, you're dead. That's an accident. Or you know, all these micro life which is floating around, you took in the wrong number of bacteria, you could be dead, because it damaged the body. It doesn't matter how it happened, but essentially if body gets damaged due to some reason, then if it becomes inhospitable for life to sustain itself, then there is a breakdown of body. Because there is breakdown of body there is an exiting of life process. We will consider all these are accidental deaths or unnatural deaths. What would be a natural death then?


A natural death means - what you call as my life is a certain amount of energy controlled by a certain amount of information. This information in today's verbology, we can call it software. So certain amount of life energy charged with a certain amount of information - now together - this information technology is you. You become a certain kind of character because a certain type of information that's gone into you. Somebody has become different because of the type of information that's gotten into him. This information traditionally we call it as karma or the karmic body or the causal body which causes life.


So if we use a simpler term of karma or the karmic body - in this there are two dimensions, two fundamental dimensions. One is Sanchita karma. This is the warehouse of karma. This goes back to a single-celled animal and even inanimate substances from where life evolved. All the information is there. If you close your eyes, become aware enough and look into yourself, you will know the nature of the universe.


Not because you're looking at it through your head, simply because this information is present in the making of the body. That is your Sanchita Karma.


You can not take your warehouse and do retail business, you know. You need to have another shop to do retail business. So that retail that is for this life is called Prarabdha.


Prarabdha Karma is a certain amount of information allotted for this life. Depending upon the vibrancy of your life, life allots itself how much information it can take on. Natural death means the information runs out, life becomes feeble. That if a person dies like this, he clearly knows that he is going to die and you will see extraordinary wisdom they will display because they are dying a natural death.


When information runs out, life peters out slowly and this is not tortuous. This is very beautiful. Even if you lived a bad life the last few moments will become very peaceful, wonderful and perceptive.


You will see.... I don't know if any of you have seen any old people dying naturally in your homes. If you have seen, the last few days they will suddenly become so wise, they're not attached to anything around them, they are showing an extraordinary sense of maturity, which they have failed to show throughout their life. [audience laughes]


Have you noticed this sometimes? Some people die like this because that's a natural death. Natural death is not a bad death. It's a good thing. It's a good thing for you and a good thing for others that you are leaving, you know. Naturally - not being forced out of your body. Naturally moving out. This will naturally bring awareness and the necessary perception and this is very good, a good way to go.


But if information has not run out because ...[draws breath and looks around at the audience]...Till you're 80 you're trying to live like a teenager, so information doesn't run out.


How rapidly you empty out your Prarabdha depends on how quickly you move from one aspect of life to another. If you are 80 and still think like a teenager - you still want to romance somebody, you still want to go sit in the streetside and watch a woman walking on the street - what you should have done at 16 or 18 you can't get rid of it - then your prarabdha will not go. Now, it doesn't matter if you live to a hundred, still you will die an unnatural death, because body will run out but information will not.



So, if one dies and his information is not done - his prarabdha is not done, then life is still vibrant but body is gone. Then something must be done for him. Something must be done to help. If you don't do that, if you do not do the right things about him, he will unnecessarily wander.


So, this disembodied life has no discriminatory mind. It will tend to go by it's tendencies. Whatever karmic substance which is still not dissovled, which will...which will form a certain type of tendency, will drive it in certain directions.


Certain directions means...there's many aspects to it. If I say these things, you will start imagining things tonight. Here we cleaned up the place. Wherever...[draws breath, looks up, drums fingers on thigh, finally looks at audience]...this is dangerous! Wherever there is life and the life is of such a nature that it breathes minimally....breaths minimally means...the oxygen levels around it, oxygen is not the factor, but anything that is life nurturing is at minimal level around it - not in terms of energy but in terms of physical forces. So we can call it oxygen. For example, a tamarind tree...you know we got one [points to courtyard]. Always around a temple, they will plant a tamarind tree - not bang in the front, but you know, we had it readymade so we left it there. You always heard in India ghosts will hang on a tamarind tree, have you? Why a tamarind tree is...I want you to just go tonight and notice it. [audience laughs]


[waves hand laughing with audience]


No, no. Don't get me wrong. Not the ghosts. If you go and watch the tamarind tree...if you go and watch the other trees...you will see lot of birds will be sitting for the night's rest. No bird will settle down on a tamarind tree. No monkey will settle down on a tamarind tree. Though there is fruit, daytime they will eat, night nobody will settle there because the level of oxygen around a tamarind tree is extremely low compared to other vegetation that you can find. There are other trees also, a few of them, but this one is significantly so. So because there is not enough oxygen the birds don't settle, other life doesn't settle. Because there is no other life settling and lack of oxygen - in physical terms, for a mindless life - feels like death and dissolution. So it tends to move in that direction.


It may also move in the direction of a yogi who has a certain mastery over his breath because he is not breathing as much as others are breathing. We've been telling you your breath will slow down as you do your practice. Hatha Yoga people must be noticing this. As you do your Hatha Yoga, your number of breaths per minute is coming down. Better utilization of the environment around you, but in terms of physical forces, there is less happening around you than somebody who is puffing all the time. Maybe a cigarette smoker, who knows? We need to test this out. A cobra, just to name a few, these are things where disembodied beings naturally will tend to move toward. If it moves toward a Yogi - no problem. He will do what he has to do with them. Tamarind tree, they can hang there. If it's in front of a place like Dhyanalinga, that handles it.


A cobra also has a certain influence on this life. This is why the relationship between cobra and life and birth and cycles and works is simply because it attracts disembodied beings, simply because it holds it's breath for long periods of time. It exhales once in 7 to 9 minutes or even every 12 minutes if it's a large snake. Because of this, these things move. Or in other words, essentially what you need to understand is they have no discriminatory mind, they move by tendencies. If you have certain tendencies, a certain type of life may come toward you but they cannot harm you, they cannot do anything to you because they have no intention, they have no mind. They're just looking for some place to move. Whichever way their tendencies blow them, they're moving that way - mindless life, nondiscriminatory life. It is not choosing you as a choice, but if the way you are and their tendencies match, they tend to move toward you.


You need to understand there is no such thing as a ghost. You are a ghost with body. Someone lost their body, does it make them more dangerous or less dangerous? Hmm? Less dangerous. They lost their mind and body. They are less dangerous than these people [points at audience]. So they do not become more dangerous when they lose their mind and body. They become far less dangerous. It's just that your mind can do enormous damage to you simply because of extraordinary levels of fear that one generates when somebody sees such things.


Yesterday we had someone, a California-born person who is in India. They took him into the forest. He went, you know, just a 15 minute walk to the Vaibhave Shiva spot. [Video pans showing the spot the Californian toured.] Looked around, "Where are the animals? Where is the elephant? Where is the tiger?" He thought they would all be sitting there [audience laughs] waiting for him to see. So it's not like ghosts are coming to attack you and do something. No, they're just like breeze. In southern India - I don't know if they use this word in Tamil - at least in Kannada - they call these forces as gaali. Gaali means just air or breeze. It's a most appropriate word descripton. Is there a Tamil word like that? [looks at audience].


[someone from audience says Aavi]


Aavi. Aavi is like steam. It's the most appropriate description. It's just like steam or breeze. Whichever way it goes they go that way. They have no mind of their own. If a ghost comes, you can just do "OOOF" [puffs air out], they will go. [audience laughs and claps]. Really! Because they have no mind, they have no body, by tendencies they're floating around, simply they'll go. It is a very appropriate description to call it gaali or aavi because that is how it is.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Disembodied Beings: Downloading Exalted Beings - Ep. 6 (of 6)
15 minutes - 2006
Transcript


(Female voice) Q from audience:
In the last Sanyama, I heard you speak about downloading some exalted beings into people's bodies who are here. Can you explain what you meant?

Sadhguru's A:

[Sadhguru looks at the questioner]

You...Are you the body? [Audience bursts out laughing and Sadhguru grins]

Did you understand the question? That's good. [Audience laughs even louder]

So....(Sadhguru sighs then smiles)...there are other things we can do which is not about teaching yoga or conducting programs. When I...Sometimes when I look at myself I can't believe that I have settled to teaching programs in organized, structured way because I am not that. (shakes hand no)

So there are other things we can do which are of a completely different nature but because we took up certain social responsibilities we have postponed them for a while but I am thinking of considerably cutting down my around...(pauses)...traveling around activity and start doing something else altogether. Maybe a part of the time in here (Isha Yoga Center in India); and a part of the time in the US ashram (in Tennesee), but mostly sitting in one place rather than moving about too much. So, (Sadguru laughs softly) about bodies....

You know, one group of people who made a serious efforts towards bringing down exalted beings into the existing bodies now was the Theosophical Society group. [video cuts to black & white photo of Madame Blavatsky and Col. Olcott. It then cuts to the International HQ of the Theosophical Society in Adyar, Chennai, India]

They made a huge effort and they did certain occult possibilities but what they wanted to do, they could never do.*(see notes at end of transcript)

Sadhguru continues:

Too grand a plan. In theory it is possible but in practice it became very difficult; because they were trying to bring down a very complex being which...(pauses for a moment)...who is being referred to as Maitreya through the ages, which never happened. **(see notes at end of transcript)


"We are not thinking of anything like that. In the last quite some time, there are many exalted beings who have, you know? Constantly in many ways behind me (my note: ie helping Sadhguru's work). To find them a way...(sighs)...to find them a body because they've lost their karmic structures to a large extent except for something very rudimentary with that they can't gain a body. To earn a body you must have sufficient karma (karma is Sanskrit for 'action'). Otherwise you're just there (Sadhguru throws out hands indicating space).

So I'm thinking, not thinking...I'm considering and I'm...(closes eyes like he's pondering and nods head yes...) "We will do this". Over a period of time, I want to find appropriate bodies for these beings. These are very exalted beings, but still with small bondages. ***(see notes (a) & (b) at end of transcript)

I could release them as they are, but I'm thinking of finding bodies, appropriate bodies for these beings so that we will live in the company of those people for a while; fantastic people. It will be a great boon for the world to have such people.

For a time I accommodated them in my own body, a few of them. That there were times when it was absolutely confusing for people who lived around me. There were many times where....(Sadhguru pauses)...when...(pauses again)...[Video cuts to photo of Sadhguru's wife Vijji smiling at the camera]...when Vijji was there, I would just drive her to insanity because I am just sitting there, because I'm just sitting there...she turns around and looks and it's somebody else, and she would be terrified, so terrified, petrified. She wouldn't know what to do. And another time she looks at me, it's somebody else sitting there.****

Those things we did for a certain time because Dhyanalinga was coming up and that. So sometime in future, we will download a few of these beings to maybe some of your bodies, I don't know; [Audience bursts out laughing and Sadhguru grins] but you have to go.

So it will need lots of preparation and sadhana to make people receptive enough for something like that. They must be strong enough but not too strong. They must be weak enough but not too weak. We have to find that balance...and it's a different level of sadhana altogether.

(Male voice) Q from audience:

So what happens to the person already in the body? Will they float around like bodiless beings?

Sadhguru A:

No, not that...that is not the way. If we have to do that, first of all, we have to make this being into a very... (pauses, then points to audience member)...let's say we take Richard. [Audience starts laughing and Sadhguru grins down at Richard who clearly is on the front row]

[Sadhguru grins and looks up at the entire room]

No, I'm not choosing him because he's special, (it's) because he's sitting right here. [Sadhguru laughs again] Let's say we take Richard now. Now we want to bring some other exalted being into this body. So now what we have to do with Richard is you can't pull him out and leave him somewhere. No, now we have to enlighten him, we must dissolve him. But if he dissolves, this body will collapse. But just using that transitory state of this one leaving, this one dissolving and that one getting into this body needs to happen. [My note: If one is enlightened it means at that moment Richard attains to Sat-Cit-Ananda - supreme infinite existence, supreme infinite super-consciousness, supreme infinite bliss].


It's like you know? They go and dock into the satellite something? It's an intricate process. It needs an atmosphere of enormous energy and discipline. So this one will cease to exist but we will raise the body to such a situation of sadhana that the body will be in such a state that it'll still be receptive. You have heard, ok we've been talking about there have been many like this but we've been talking about Paramahansa Yogananda. [video cuts to the photo of the author of Autobiography of a Yogi fame]. His body was kept without preservatives. That is just one aspect of it. I'm just using that as an example, that's not for this purpose.


So somebody is able to leave their body that is an example and a proof for you that somebody is able to leave the body in some other way than the normal way, isn't it? Because the body remains intact without deteriorating. So similarly body can be left in other ways. Leaving the body as still suitable for life. So this one is completely dissolved. So, sometime...I don't know how long but...sometime the roadshow has to stop and I need to sit somewhere to do things that cannot be done just coming and going and seeing the building and saying, 'ok, everything is nice' and move on to the next town. It doesn't happen like that. Then I have to get rooted.


So...somewhere all of you need to make up your mind, what we want? But if you're looking about truly exploring the esoteric, if we're really looking at setting up a enlightenment factory...
[audience bursts out laughing and someone in the audience shouts out, YES! audience begins hooping and clapping - Sadhguru grins and laughs]


[Sadhguru laughs and looks around the room again with a grin...]
...then we need to have lots of loonies! [Audience bursts out laughing even more] Who...who are just not concerned about their well-being anymore. There must be lots of people who are willing to be stripped down to their bones. If you cut and eat their soul it should be ok with them. That takes a different kind of involvement, absolutely different kind of involvement. I don't want anybody to fancifully say, "No, we'll do the spiritual thing..."


Because once I step into it (ie...this DL process) there's no way out for me. Generally everybody keeps their options open. If it's convenient they'll be there, not convenient tomorrow morning they'll disappear without even telling us. But I have no options. Once I put my foot there, I'm done. No matter what. So at least there needs to be a core group of people who will not keep any options open otherwise it'll just be me. Because I don't know any other way and there's no other way to make it happen. Once I step into something that's it. [Video has been playing photo after photo after photo of Sadhguru surrounded by truly enormous crowds. Like football stadium-sized packed gatherings across several continents of his followers and fans.]


You want to keep the options open we'll just do the road show as we're doing right now. Town to town, town to town and no water, just getting them little thirstier and little thirstier hoping someday they will.
But now we want to create a water source then it takes something else.


On those spheres of life I have...(pauses)....


At one time I had very big plans. Now I scaled them down a little bit because of various situations in our lives.


Let's see. If you create, if everybody together creates a conducive atmosphere, lot will happen, otherwise less will happen but something definitely will happen. "How much" depends on, (indicates the ashram) how well-oiled the whole machine is, but something will definitely happen, because some of it is very essential. The essential part I will anyway do it. The more fancy part, whether to do it or not depends on various situations.


[Sadhguru looks around the room]


So you want imported beings? We are looking at certain people who could be a good influence on the atmosphere around here, and certain people who could be of certain capabilities that it will be easy to impart certain things to them, but it's a shame that we have to import beings from elsewhere when so many (beings) are here? Hmm? (indicates his audience)


You are only willing to offer your body, not willing to evolve your being. That is a possibility that we may do for certain purposes. For certain purposes which is off the...what to say...off the normal spiritual process. Certain purposes, if we have to prepare people, would take a very long time. For such purposes we may do it. I am saying 'may' but the most important thing is to raise this crop of people to a higher possibility. That's most important for me.




*****side notes for some context*****

*[On avatars (divine-to-human descent), avadhoots (human-to-divine-ascent) and maha-avatars (grand divine-to-divine descent - or rarely - to human descent).


From what I gather Madame Blavatsky and Co. were trying to bring down a Maha-Avatar (Grand Avatar) - an extremely exalted avatar such that even actual deities would be able to become disciples of this exalted being. According to Buddhist Sutras the future Buddha Maitreya will be one of these exalted avatars (though he's not the only one in the universe) such that it's prophesied 30,000 god-deities and 20,000 goddess-deities will also take Maha-Avatar Maitreya as their guru. A Maha Avatar is an Avatar's Avatar if you get my meaning. FYI...the future Buddha Maitreya is not scheduled to appear for another 5.6 billion years and all of the current Buddha's teachings - ie Shakyamuni Buddha - will have long,long,long been forgotten by humanity.]


**[Maitreya is from the Sanskrit root 'maitr which means 'friend'. So Maitreya is so called because he will be the 'friend of humanity' and give a big push to help humanity evolve up the Planes. Maitreya is really more of a title - like Doctor so-and-so or Justice so-and-so or Lord or Lady so-and-so than an actual given name.]


***(a)[In Buddhist lore they would be known as Bodhisattvas of the 10th bhumi (stage) as opposed to a Buddha who has zero bondages left ("karmic appendages" is how I once heard Sadhguru call it). The step beyond 10th bhumi is full-on Buddha. Even Shakyamuni was born as a Bodhisattva, and only became a Buddha later under the Bodhi tree. In Hindu lore Buddha is accounted a full avatar of Lord Vishnu (Lord of Supreme - but still capable of perfected action - Divine Super-Consciousness). Shiva does not ever act, not ever - Buddha was still capable of acting when action was needed - hence his accounting as a divine avatar of Lord Vishnu in popular lore. Well that and Vaishnavism has long been far more popular throughout India than Shaivism. So there might be a wee bit of wanting to ascribe the Buddha to their preferred association of the Ultimate Divinity. :)


***(b)It also contextualizes the importance of Nirmanakaya - keeping a physical plane body "frame" so a higher Plane blessed being still has a way of reaching and guiding beings on the denser planes. As Sadhguru has said...unless you practice for having and keeping such a body you don't just automatically get one. Mother Nature's maxim: Use it or lose it seems to be a thing even for exalted beings. The beings who do this are known as Nirmanakayas in the Dharma traditions. A Nirmanakaya (like Gautama) keeps a subtle body copy of their physical body around from which they can build future physical bodies if needed.


Sadhguru has a separate topic on Youtube about spacetime and Nirmanakayas where he mentions Shakyamuni specifically as an example. But he says there are many other such beings throughout the universe whom are also Nirmanakayas. From his other talk I got the impression doing practices to gain a Nirmanakaya body may involve Kalaswara - a (probably very elevated and likely very secret) branch of yogic practices that involve control of spacetime itself. One likely has to be proven over many multiple lifetimes of having upmost integrity and ethics even in the face of grave danger (or its opposite - extreme self-advantage - like Jesus was tempted with) to get such teachings.


****For what it's worth. I've heard stories that some of Bardon's disciples, including his own family say this happened. The father in particular IRC says one day he knew it was someone else in his son's body. One day his son was there. The next day - his own son was gone and somebody else was looking and talking at him from his son's body from that day forward. I'm guessing an advanced being released the original "Franz" to maha-samadhi/maha-parinirvana and took on that body (and it's karma) so as to give the teachings now bearing the Bardon name to the world.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Prana: The Power of Kundalini (5 of 5)
17 minutes - 1998
Location: Isha Yoga Center
Transcript



Man in audience reads the following from a sheet of paper:

Q: Greetings Sadhguru. What is the relationship between prana and kundalini? And then this is related to it: How do we generate and maintain a proper flow of prana?



Sadhguru closes eyes for a moment then looks at audience...


A: The word Kund means a pit. It could be homakund, which is a sacrificial pit. Teetakund, which is a kind you have seen (indicates to outer ashram area). Or just a kund. It is just a pit.

So Kundalini is not the name of a particular energy. Kundalini is a description of a certain practice. (Sadhguru suddenly grins and laughs)...I know everywhere people are using the word like it is some film star...(laughs pretending to be a hipster spiritual person)...Kundalini! Where's your kundalini?! [Audience bursts out laughing]

Now...getting your energy out of the pit, the latent energy which is in the pit, to get it out of the pit is kundalini. Kundalini yoga means to get the energy out of the pit and active. [video cuts to a a painting of a slim yogi with mala beads in full lotus, eyes closed, arms extended with gyan mudra.]

A massive amount of energy is in the pit. It's still there. You also have it but it is not yours yet. Til you dig it out it is not yours yet. If you dare to open this you must be ready for many things. So we established a whole yogic system called Kundalini Yoga. Those who dare to directly open it. Because once you move in this direction you should not be concerned about your life - (Sadhguru indicates toward an audience member) - like she's doing her asana but she's worried about her relationship. You shouldn't have such concerns in your life.

[Sadhguru grins]

You're doing your asana, you're worried about your money. You shouldn't have such concerns in your life because if this grabs you from inside everything will evaporate. Nothing matters.

So Kundalini Yoga is for those who have no interest in life around them...(Sadhguru points to the whole room). After they've mastered it maybe they can play with life. But when they're on it they have no interest in anything around them. They're only interest is they want to go and explore the pit where the life is coming from. All this is happening (indicates his body), they want to know where it's coming from, all this physical manifestation. They want to dive into it and see.

So one aspect of Kundalini Yoga is to go into the pit or...Kund is also another reference to the womb. You're trying to go back to the womb. Going back to the womb means going back to the place where you were manufactured. Do not think of it in terms of female anatomy. (shakes hands no vigorously). It is a place where you are manufactured, isn't it? It's like you went back to a factory. Where you were made.

Yesterday I went to Bangalore to visit the Volvo plant where they make the buses and trucks in India. [Video cuts to Sadhguru touring the Volvo plant floor. He is inspecting how the cars are made at various stations. Various people are with him on the plant floor escorting him around showing him the various machinery used daily].

So I went there and got engrossed the whole day in the engines and the works and the technology because it's one thing to see a machine performing outside. It's another thing to see how it is made. With how much care and how much intelligence the whole thing is made is a different game altogether. That's what a mother's womb is, isn't it? Such a complex system is being put together in a woman's womb.

So one of the things most Kundalini Yogis do is...if they don't find a cave they will burrow a hole in the earth and go inside. I've seen, (laughs) I've visited some Kundalini Yogis in their holes. Unfortunately they have become like rats, not like yogis. (Sadhguru shakes head sadly) They only burrowed themselves in without the necessary (Sadhguru shakes head sadly again) ...what needs to happen within them (to make the practice a success). So when that happens you just end up being a rat. Not in the race, but just a rat. (audience laughs).

This happened...I was in Hyderabad...way back. These were the first few programs that I taught. 30 years ago. [Video cuts to show a younger Sadhguru with black hair teaching a packed class.] 1985...1983...83 was the first class in Hyderabad and one man came completely wired out. No muscle, all wirey. He was an ex member of the Parliament. So he got so engrossed in Kundalini Yoga...and he dug a hole. There's a place called...(Sadhguru breaks off)

Anybody from Hyderabad? No? (looks around room) Oh! You were there. (looks at other audience member). This was Sansaga (My note: Sansaga- that's what the word sounded like to me that he said. If anyone from Hyderabad reads this please let me know if I've misheard/misspelled the name). The other side of the Sansaga. Not the side of the (inaudible). The other side. This man somehow got government permission to build one small room, burrow a hole and sit inside and do his yoga. But he's so full of himself. He's not willing to take instruction from anybody. He read books and started doing Kundalini Yoga. So when he came to me he was quite a twisted out creature. But he's a member of Parliament. He was...at least. So he's been exposed to the ways of the world and everything.

So I start off on (a talk about)...responsibility...(Sadhguru pretends to be ex-Parliament yogi-wanna-be) "I did not come here to learn civics! Teach me yoga!" (Sadhguru laughs) So I looked at him and I remember this very well because the volunteers and people there to help were just shocked. I was telling him so many things. He just came back with the same thing. (Sadhguru gets severe look on his face and points) I said, "Hey man!" and he (Sadhguru imitates ex-parliament member jumping back in surprise). I said, "Hey man, just listen. I know what you've done to yourself in the last 12-15 years. Either I will undo this or just as you sit here I'll do something else to you now."

Because he won't allow the class to progress. There are 100 people in the program (but) this guy rants out his own thing, his own yoga that he's read in his books. So to the member of Parliament I said "hey man!" They all got shocked, (puts hands together imitating his class) "Sadhguru! It could be the end of you". (audience laughs and Sadhguru laughs)

And then after the program we did something to him. Something for the first time - little sweetness he experienced in his life. Then he asked me to come to his (Sadhguru grins) "Sadhana Room" and bless him. I said, "OK" and I went. And he's got a rat hole. This could be yogis cave...if it is done properly. If you don't do the right kind of things it just becomes a suffocating hole.

So I walked in. A stench...stench not in terms of smell. It is the stench of no life. This man is killing himself, literally. Doing all the wrong things. So...he's doing all the physical things right - in a sense. He's sleeping on a mat, no pillow. He eats only one time a day and...you know? All those things that he read in the books that yogis are supposed to do.

Then...it's morning I went. Early morning like 6-6:30. Then I went and spoke to him for about 2 hours and by then he was like this (mimics devoted disciple kowtowing to him) and I said, "Order breakfast." (Sadhguru mimics this now-devoted ex-parliamentarian shaking his hand vigorously no) "Morning I don't eat. I don't eat in the morning." I said, "Order a breakfast. I want to eat."

See for somebody who thinks not eating is the greatest Sadhana eating is corruption, you understand? So I want to do that to him. (Sadhguru laughs). I want to eat in his place. I said, "Order. What is the closest hotel. Order this...order that." (Sadhguru laughs again)


So with this great tray (of food)....(Sadhguru mimics new-disciple's reluctance). He never brings all this food into the thing. He's just eating raw cluster beans. It's a bitter vegetable. Only by cooking it'll be nice. So that's his breakfast. He wants to have his meal actually. I said, "leave that. I already ordered this, this, this and that. Eat with me." (audience laughs). And I spent almost 5-6 hours that day with him and made him eat whatever I had there. Broke his rigidity a little bit.


So Yoga can become like that. Kundalini Yoga. Because you're trying to dig. So you dig a coal mine without the necessary preparation you can die in just the dust of the coal, isn't it? So the same thing. If you dig into the Kund you must be ready, equipped in every possible way otherwise you don't talk Kundalini. Not necessary at all. I know it's so loosely talked about. Kundalini is not referring to a certain dimension of energy. Kundalini is referring to a certain form that our energy has taken or a certain place that our energy has settled into. It has settled into a pit and it's not coming out. And what is in a pit is of no use to you.


So bringing it into use. There are gentler ways of doing it. Hatha Yoga that you are doing - if you open up your system slowly depending upon what your system is ready for - slowly it will move up - a higher level of energy you can easily experience. But if you dig the pit itself then it's like a minefield. You know there are people who go and defuse bombs? So now if you go to defuse or to dig up something which is very powerful without necessary preparation that's not a good thing. If you are too good at it - maybe without protection you can go and do it. Otherwise it's always best that substantial protection is created before we attempt it. Or the best way is...(indicates his body) you open up the system slowly you will see a higher level of energy moving through you gradually the system becomes more and more vibrant. But if you want to touch the Kundalini, that which is in the Kund, preparation. Or...constant observation by somebody who knows what's happening or very cared for atmosphere that is competent enough to handle it. Or somebody who is competent enough to handle it for you. Or your own competence will come...it's too long to get your own competence...(Sadhguru stops then shakes head no).


So going for Kundalini Yoga site...is a foolhardy thing to do. Most people do it for 3 days and then go on and say, "You know I did Kundalini Yoga. I did Kundalini Yoga." Because something in that name they're doing because people want to start with the highest, not with the lowest. Where should you start? 1-2-3? Or zillion-billion-million? 1-2-3 is the way to start, isn't it?


If you 1-2-3. If you know up to 9 you can go any number you want. You don't have to learn zillion. If you learn up to 9 numbers and if you get a gift of 0 you can go as far as you want. You don't have start there (points upward).


See right now there is Kundalini in the earth. Instead of trying to dig it out you plant a seed. It grows up. If a tree has to push itself against gravity and grow that big a phenomenal energy must be working, isn't it? Isaac Newton only saw a small apple falling down. Why did he miss a whole tree growing up? Something is pushing it up, isn't it? Much bigger than apple falling down, no? Something far bigger - energy is pushing it up. Now this pushing up - you can call it Kundalini. I'm speaking - this is also Kundalini. You're listening - that is also Kundalini. A dog is barking - that is also Kundalini. A tree is flowering - that is also Kundalini. So the whole energy in the existence is referred to as Kundalini. Because this is the nature of the energy. It is always in a pit. Only if you put a potential possibility - like a seed - it finds expression. So right now you put the right kind of seed and allow it to find expression rather than trying to dig it out. But those who are in a rush and those who are competent or those who are in the presence of the competent constantly - such people can dig it out.


You know there are certain systems of Tantra. There were certain types of people, particularly in Central Asia. These were certain groups of gypsies, nomadic people, who in their rituals in a matter of 2.5-3 hours they will plant an apple seed and make the tree grow and bear fruit. In India there have been many situations like that but outside of India these people did that because these people had a certain process of Tantra where within a matter of few hours you plant, do certain rituals and make things happen - a plant actually grows up and bears a fruit.


So there are other ways that if you create a certain type of energy, if you dig out a certain type of energy - what would happen in a certain span of life would happen very rapidly in your life. So Kundalini is that dimension. One should not meddle with it unless they are truly, truly competent.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Prana: Moving the Chakras -Part 2 - Ep. 4 (4 of 5 on Prana)
16 minutes - 1998
Location: Isha Yoga Center
Transcript


Review Intro from Part 1:
You move your Anahata to your hand and you just touch somebody, they will burst with love. So life will become so multi-dimensional and so beautiful and blissful simply because your energy system is mobile. It's a completely different dimension of competence. So some of the most mobile chakras...let's look at this...

****Part 2***********

[Sadhguru is sitting typical cross-legged yogi-style and begins pointing to the traditional locations for the chakras on his body that everyone has seen in a million books, posters and videos]
If I sit here my chakras can be like this...swadhisthana, manipurika, anahata, vishuddi, agna, sahasrar (points at each traditional location)

Or it could be like this (throws arm/hand forward at audience indicating several feet outward)

Or it could be like this (throws arm/hand sideways indicating several feet outward)

It could be any which way.

Mooladhara is not mobile at all. It's there always (indicates to where his butt meets the chair he's sitting on). Swadhistana is very mobile. You can move it anywhere you want. Many things you can do (flutters hands all around his body) with this. It's a very powerful process - swadhistana. Because we just point at the genitals it is not about sexuality. Swadhistana means, "the abode of the self". If you live in a very physical way this will mean just sexuality. If you transcend your physicality this is a very powerful space. It's the very abode of self. So this is very mobile (moves hands out away and around his body).

Manipurika, not necessary to make it mobile. It's better that it's not mobile at all. It's there (traditional position) always. Manipurika could be mobile but that's not a good thing to do. It's not good to move your Manipurika too much. Some of the people who are into certain type of martial arts are making their Manipurika mobile to demonstrate certain things. (Sadhguru looks down gently). That is not good at all. So you don't move your Manipurika.

Swadhistana you can move. Anahata you can move. Vissuddhi, don't move. (shakes hand no). Agna is very mobile. (hands fly off upward). It's just anywhere. (Sadhguru looks up to the ceiling and flings hand up) You can move this just to another planet, or other universe if you want because it's very mobile. Because it is an instrument of perception. It can go anywhere. It has no problem. And moving it is safe and fantastic and wonderful because if one wants to perceive he has to move it.


*****side note*****

Notice to readers: this lecture was given to Sadhguru's direct disciples and Isha's daily volunteers. Originally it was not intended for the general public - so while Astral Plane Agna-Travel is safe for his disciples I don't know whether it's always safe for people going DIY - I'd guess it's probably more like "proceed at your own risk" for DIY-ers).


****back to the transcript*****

Right now unknowingly you're moving it. See....why we're insisting in our yoga program, even in a simple Isha yoga program for Inner Engineering(tm) keep your attention on me. Don't look at the carpet, don't look at the book, just be with me is because if you simply (suddenly hunches and stares - mimicing his disciples focusing on something with exclusive attention) - after sometime your Agna is out (throws hand foreward from his face). You understand?

If it (is) out and touches this (indicates with hands) instantly perception happens. Which you can never understand how - but suddenly you know life so much better. Suddenly you're conducting it so much better. Because unknowingly you threw your Agna out(ward) and touched. This is the most mobile chakra. It just goes out effortlessly. If you show enough interest in something it'll go out. This should go out because this is of receptivity. It must go out as much as possible.

Mooladhara can not go out. It can...but that's of a different nature (waves hands no). That is people who leave their body and go around and things...you know? That's a completely different thing.

Swadhistana if you can move out you can do fantastic things but it takes lots of work. Manipurika it's best you don't move. If you move it you don't move your body. You settle down in one place. Never move. So yogis who move their Manipurika won't leave their living quarters. They have a little cubicle. They will never step out of it. They will live only within that. Because they know once they move their Manipurika if they move their body they will not last long at all.

Anahata you can move. You can move a lot. (makes circular motion around himself). Already it is moving. For most people it's moving but not consciously. Moving going here and there (makes waving motions with hands)...getting tangled up.

Vishuddhi you can do phenomenal things but that is the most difficult chakra to work with. Even when we were doing the Dyanalinga (ie the Dyanalinga Temple) we could not train people for Vishuddhi. We did wonderfully with everything else but for Vishuddhi we could not because fortunately or unfortunately (throws up hands) or for whatever reason - the people who came with the necessary readiness and competence came (ie reincarnated) in female bodies. [video cuts to show very early younger Sadhguru photo - he still had black hair then - showing him teaching and training a class of female disciples].

And generally it is not within the sphere of a woman's emotion and thought to go for Vishuddhi. She will not go...usually. Not that she cannot go at all, she can, but 99% of the time she will not move in that direction. She will tend to go here (points to Anahata). She will tend to go here (points to Swadhistana). She will tend to go here (points to Agna). But Vishuddhi she always skips. So I tried to desperately train them in so many ways. [to prepare them for participating in consecrating the Dyanalinga Temple's infusion of Vishuddhi powers] But it just wouldn't work. Then we used somebody else to make it happen. You know the story.

[short story: Sadhguru says he finally had to enlist the aid of a dis-embodied yogi who was very strong in Vishuddhi power to complete the consecration of the Dyanalinga Temple. He says once the dis-embodied yogi realized what Sadhguru needed him for he became very willing because it meant he would ascend to higher planes of existence in exchange for giving up his Vishuddhi powers to the Dyanalinga instead].

***continuing transcript****

So we did a completely different kind of process to fulfill the Vishuddhi because neither the men who were with me nor the women who were with me - I couldn't get them up (makes reving up motion with his hand) to generate enough to get the Vishuddhi moving because it has always been the most difficult chakra. And that is why Shiva sits there.

There are some people who are not looking for the easy. He is...Shiva means you're always...you know? [Video cuts to painting of an athletically lean but muscular, bearded and blue-tinged yogi in dreadlocks touching the hollow pit of his throat with his right hand ring finger].



All the yogis applying Vibhuti on their Vishuddhi is because this is Shiva's center. He mastered this and it turned blue. [note: Vibhuti is the sacred ash of burnt wood. It's typically ash that's had mantras and/or rituals done over it.]

[My note: Sadhguru here is referring to Adiyogi - the world's first known yogi who has been given the honorific "Shiva" in Hindu lore in designation that the world's first-known yogi attained to "that about which nothing can be said"]


****Continuing transcript****

If one has some mastery of his Vishuddhi his whole aura will turn electric blue. It is this type of aura which allows you to function in the world in a way that other people think is superhuman. So this is why all the Indian gods are painted blue. [my note: there are some Indian goddesses also painted blue like this too]. They're considered blue-bodied. Rama is blue-bodied. Krishna is blue-bodied. Shiva (ie Adiyogi) is blue-bodied. What they are saying is...it is not that their skin was blue. It is just that when you look at them with a certain level of awareness you will see them blue because their aura has become electric blue. And this aura you wear because it is only with this aura you can show immense capability with the world. All these 3 chose to be active, dynamically active in the world so they wore the blue aura. If you don't wish to be so active then you wear the white aura because it's much more pleasant and better.

Blue is electric. It's like....(waves hands)...scorpion bite. [Video cuts to another yogi sitting on a mountain ledge with hand extended toward a scorpion]. This is also one of the reasons why the yogis take scorpion bites...is...they're hoping their aura will become blue. It actually does. Poison always turns you blue. You know this? (gazes questioningly at audience) No? (a few audience member laugh softly and Sadhguru smiles)

If somebody is poisoned their body turns blue when they die. So blue is a dangerous space to go. But phenomenally capable space if you know how to go into it properly. So yogis take bites from the scorpion. One (other) way is to keep themselves awake. So one little (makes sharp bite motion with hand) 'Tkk!' - you'll stay awake for 3 days. And it'll go (makes wavy motion with hands). It's not always pain. It just fires up your nervous system in such a way... (draws long breath) Pain means...an incredible level of pain. It's not like any other pain a human being experiences because it just hits the nervous system. But if you start laughing you can never stop. You will laugh and laugh and laugh. If you have enough control, if you become meditative...just there....

Scorpion bite (makes sudden bite motion to finger pad) and you just sit there (demonstrates sitting with eyes slightly closed gazing gently at Agna region and head tilted slightly up)...that's it. It's a completely different kind of intoxicant. Which keeps you aware and intoxicated at the same time.

So they want to become like Shiva (Adiyogi), blue-bodied. Intoxicated (ie Sadhguru typically uses intoxicated as a synonym for ecstasy), aware. So they're using an external aid.

The nature of Vishuddhi is that..(stops for a moment)...and that is why the whole story of Shiva drank up all the poison in the universe and his wife (Parvati) saw he drank this up and he's going to die because he drank too much. Everything that is there in the universe he drank it up. So she held him by the throat. So that it doesn't go to the rest of his body it just stopped here (points to his throat pit). So he's known as Neelakantha or Vishakanta which means his throat is full of poison but it did not enter his body. It gave him an aura of blue. But he did not die from that because it was stopped at Vishuddhi. And the word Vishuddhi just means this - Vishuddhi means 'filter'.

If there's anyone who wants to work on Vishuddhi they must dedicate their life to it. And we would love to work on them because it is rare. It is rare to generate....(trails off)... Even to find (Sadhguru's emphasis) a human being like that who wants to work in that direction [is rare]. So...having a lot of young people coming up...(Sadhguru stops and grins looking at the audience)...in future we may see some. (Nods head yes and grins even more).

So Vishuddhi is the most difficult space (Sadhguru's emphasis) - moving it will be a phenomenal thing. But it takes phenomenal amount of work. It's much, much easier - Agna is very easy to move.

Next easiest thing to move is Anahata. The next is Swadhistana. In that order. So right now to receive. To be able to move Agna is good enough. You don't have to do anything. Just pay absolute attention. (Sadhguru demonstrates gazing intently at an object toward the audience for several seconds). And you will see everything...just like that.

Absolute attention means...(looks thoughtful)...see the problem with most people's mind that they have not trained their mind enough - if they pay attention - mind is trying to make conclusions and collect conclusions. Once you collect conclusion perception is destroyed.


*****Side commentary on the above*****

My note: It's also a sign that one's system doesn't have enough Akash/Akasha yet so the mind is doing what it naturally does anyway - thinking and occasionally concluding. Akash/Akasha aids in choosing a new trajectory for opening up access to completely new kinds of 'intelligence' within the human body that do not rely upon the 'thinking track-in-space' to get things done. One of the main goals in Yoga and Magic is to bring these unconscious processes under conscious awareness and control. Sadhguru says this is so that even if outside events occur that you can't control (like say, a Long Descent) since outside events are never 100% under one's sole control - you'll have maximum ability to walk out of any situation with your own well being intact.


****And now back to the Transcript*****

See right now. Just right now I'm looking at her (gazes at audience member). "Oh! This is a woman." My mind made a conclusion. (Shakes head no slowly). Now, one conclusion in my mind - now my perception is clouded - 'Oh! This is a woman!' If she is something else I cannot see it. So like this mind is making conclusions. To train the mind to not make any conclusion and simply look at her like this [gazes softly at his disciple] - simply - not making any conclusion - it looks like a waste of time - (sits up abruptly) 'What is happening? What is the use?'. No. If you do not understand what is the use of attention you have missed life completely.

Because if at all, if you know anything, you know only because of your attention, isn't it? Yes or no? (looks questioningly at the audience).

Attention without making conclusions. Simply paying attention (points to his eye then toward the woman in the audience). (Shakes head no) I don't make a conclusion whether this is a man or a woman or this or that - Simply - if you can simply pay attention without making conclusions. Conclusions look like you're accumulating knowledge, yes, but they're conclusions. They're only useful for survival process. They're not useful for further exploration of life.

So Agna is very easy to throw out. But because of conclusions it gets restricted. So Hatha Yoga has all the necessary ingredients within itself - in the practice itself - if you listen to the instructions carefully and put that into practice. The practice itself has this that it will train your mind not to make conclusions (points to Agna then draws sightline to audience member) but just to pay attention. Going on paying attention to everything without making any conclusion. Now Agna will travel far. Wherever it goes it will know that. The moment it touches it will know that. You don't have to consciously know it. It will just know that. When you want it, it will all come out. There is no need to remember (pretends he's writing down a list) "Ok, I need to remember this. Ok. Ok. Ok" (mimics numbering things on his notepad).

This is just rudimentary way of learning. It doesn't matter how many times you tell them in the program (mimics disciple furiously writing down notes from an Isha yoga class and mimics disciple answering Sadhguru, "This is my way of learning!") [audience laughs].

This is not learning. Because this damn thing that's spoken by somebody can be recorded, printed. You don't have to keep it in your head and burden yourself. Isn't it? So Agna will travel easy. Anahata will travel easy. [Makes orbiting motion with hand] These 2 things can be spread around. Your attention and your emotion could easily spread. If other aspects of your body has to be moved it'll take (a) little more competence to do that.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Prana: Sadhguru Maps a Person's Energy System - Ep. 2 (of 5 on Prana)
19 minutes - 1998
Transcript



If you read the basic map of one's prana, you know their past, present and future. Everything about that person because in a way, your life is just a manifestation of your energies, how they function. So with the yogic system, what you're trying to do is to change how it functions from an unconscious repetition of things, or it is right now being heavily manipulated by the memory bank that one has or the karmic structure that one has - accordingly the energy...energy is moving according to the...[pause]

See in your intelligence today, as you understand intelligence, without memory your intelligence would be nothing, isn't it? Yes? See, you walk into this village, let's say one 8 year old smart kid from city comes, from a good family, in a good school and he comes here, a 8 year old kid in this tribal village will gape at him, not because he's any less intelligent, simply because he doesn't have the memory that that (other) boy has, and suddenly he looks like a fool because his intelligence is crippled without necessary memory.

So that is one level. Socially it is true, your memory seems to make you look better than others, but existentially it is your memory which is crippling you. This is why somebody said, "Those who stand first here will be last there. Those who stand last here will stand first there" because what seems to be smart on the social level is working against an individual human being, which he never understands.

So your social smartness, your success in the world, you handle it with a certain distance. It is needed for us to live, but we don't have to make that our qualification. Today how famous I am, how much money we have, what are we - this should not determine who I am. These things are there, these things will allow us to work better in the world, and that's all - that should not determine. But unfortunately for most human beings, that's all. That determines who they are within themselves. Who you are in the world is determined by these things, that's okay, that is the way of the world. But who you are within yourself should not be determined by this, because this is what is called as karma. The memory that you have restrains and directs your energy in the way it functions.

So right now I don't want to go into an individual's life, but I thought if I show you a comparison....

[Sadhguru looks to a huge projector screen hooked up to his Tablet that shows an outline that maps of a basic, major energy flows. The map is as follows: At the bottom is an enormous Infinity Loop connected to 2 upward lines at the Loop's center and the lines - are topped off by a big X. Between the 2 upward lines are X's at certain intervals.]

Sadhguru asks for a volunteer from the audience. An athletic looking young woman in yoga pants gets up and comes forward and he asks her to hold her hands outward like DaVinci's famous drawing. Sadhguru, with his hands about an inch away - hovers his hand down then up along her spine and then makes a few additional sketches on his tablet drawing and assigns some number tags to some of the X's along the upward column. The woman bows to him then sits back down and Sadhguru does praying hands and inclines slightly to her in turn.]

Sadhguru continues:

One reason is out of sheer ignorance, another reason why people have usually been talking only of 7 chakras, not 114 is, one reason is because the popular books could not think beyond 7; (Sadhguru shakes his head no) leave that part. But another reason why they only spoke about seven, not the others is...

If you look at the southern mysticism, the Siddhas of the south (southern India) will only talk about 5, they won't talk about 7. When they're teaching people anything, they talk only about 5, because Mooladhara is the source. The source is infinite, that's why the symbolism. (He's referring to his Tablet drawing demonstration showing the human energy body base symbolized with the figure 8 Infinity Loop.)

When you sit naturally, it's - the easiest way to depict you is like this (makes Infinity Loop figure 8 with his hands). If you wear these new yoga clothes, you very much look like that you know (audience laughs and Sadhguru grins). Because this is the source. The Mooladhara does not only mean a foundation for this life, it is connection with the source. So that which is connected with the source is infinite. And the uppermost one is this (he refers to the huge X in his demo drawing that tops the 2 primary energy lines), because if the road is closed, this is the symbol, isn't it (makes X in the air with his hands)? Because it's not yet ready, it's not there. The Sahasrar (Crown Chakra) doesn't exist for most people; it is yet to manifest.

It was manifest to some extent when you were just born. When you were just born, there was a soft spot on top of your head. You know, you've handled little infants (Sadhguru points to the top of his own head). You will see there is not bone formation here, just the skin. Actually it'll be palpitating if you watch a little baby, tup, tup, tup, tup it'll be going like this, because this (Sahasrar) is open. But now it is closed because keeping that open and trying to live will be dangerous.

All the things that physical activity that one does and keeping the Sahasrar open will be dangerous. So once it opens up again, not physically but energy-wise when it opens up, you will see sages either dreadlock their hair or tie it up or use something else to hold it because life becomes a little fragile.

It becomes immensely capable but physical life becomes fragile. To hold the physicality with you, to hold the physical body with you when the top end is open, it needs a certain skill and a certain amount of support, otherwise one will leave. So usually with 90% or more the moment of enlightenment and moment of leaving the body is same, because once it opens up, they don't have the necessary skill to hold it, and that is where Hatha Yoga becomes all important. If one has not established his body in a proper way, what is a great blessing (ascension) also ends his life. The greatest blessing will become the end of who you are. Nothing wrong with it, it is just that if you stay around you could be useful.

As far as that life is concerned, if it leaves there's really no problem, it's wonderful to leave. But if it reaches that point and stays, it could be very useful for every other life (here).

[Sadhguru looks again at the projection of his drawing of the volunteer's energy system.]
Now, among these 7, we are only looking at the 6 here, because 7 is absent, 7 is not there yet. 7 needs to be worked at. If these 6 are sufficiently enhanced, then it'll touch the 7th. You should not touch the Sahasrar simply, because if such a thing happens you will not be able to be stable in your body. So establishing and stabilizing the physical body is very important.

Simply people are talking about 7 chakras - the 7th one is not for people who want to live. If you go there you cross the borders of physicality. So if you want to cross the border and still be here, you must have diplomatic immunity. (Audience laughs and Sadhguru grins) Yes?
Otherwise they won't send you back. If you want to go there and again come back, you need a certain immunity, otherwise you will leave.

So Hatha Yoga is largely concerned with the 5 in the center. The Mooladhara we are only trying to close it. Close it means we are trying to stabilize and close it, we are not trying to enhance it. We are trying to enhance only the 5 because it's these 5 which sustain life. Right now in the making of this building, the foundation need not do anything; it has to just stay there, that's all. So Mooladhara has to just stay there, it need not do anything. If it connects you with outside life, then your life will become very topsy-turvy.

People who go into occult practices, they want their Mooladhara to be open and they want to connect with life so that the base powers will become very strong in them. This is a sure way of ensuring no spiritual process will ever happen to you. Once you open up your Mooladhara and connect to life from the downward trend of the body, then you cannot connect with the upper moving forces of your life-structure.

So we just want to seal the foundation and we don't want to hit the top, we want to just stabilize the 5 in such a way when some day we hit the top, our body is so stable it can hold it (open Sahasrar) and experience it, not fuse out.

So Hatha Yoga is essentially concerned with these 5 chakras. These 5 chakras are associated with the 108 of the remaining chakras. These 5 handle all of the 108. So it is these 108 that we can work with. It is only these 108 that we can enhance and transform. The base one, there is nothing to do; we just have to hold it stable. And the top one, it's not yet time to touch. Till we have sufficient mastery over this, we should not touch that.

[Sadhguru looks at his Tablet drawing of the volunteer again]

Now, if we look at this, let's forget whose image this is, ok, this is like an energy x-ray for immediate purposes. We can make a much elaborate one, but that would take much more involvement. This is for immediate.

Somebody comes and sits in front of me, now they will say, "Sadhguru, I want to become a brahmachari!" (Sadhguru pretends to be intense, demanding ascetic-disciple-wanna-be and audience laughs).

I say, "Close your eyes and sit" and they sit, then I say, "Let's get you married in 6 months." (Sadhguru acts again like boisterous, demanding ascetic-disciple-wanna-be)."No Sadhguru! I want to be brahmachari!" (Audience laughs)

I say, "It's alright, you get married, after that we will see when your wife doesn't want you. (Audience bursts out with loud laughter and Sadhguru laughs) You can become a brahmachari."
"She will make a brahmachari out of you, not me." (Audience laughs again).

Because your energies are in a certain way, either you must do phenomenal sadhana to correct that or you better go that way. So if there is phenomenal will in a person, Or there is devotion - sense of surrender, then whichever way you are it can be fixed.

But you don't see that will, that commitment, that devotion and that sense of surrender, it's better go by the patterns of your life. It's like - if you want to fly, you know if the winds are...today winds are nice and quiet, but 3 days ago you saw the winds were blowing at 35-40 knots, now you don't try to fly, you don't try to take off in that wind if you have a weak machine. But you have a very powerful machine. You have a very powerful machine, you don't care what's the wind, you anyway take off. But if you don't have a very powerful machine, you don't try to take off in that kind of weather. In that kind of weather you better go with the wind, that's safer for you. But you are very powerful, then it doesn't matter wind is like this, but you go like this (ie.takeoff).


So similarly, if a person is of extraordinary will or he's willing to give up his will, he's becoming willing means he has no will of his own. If he has an extraordinary will we can take him where he wants to go. Or he has no will, then we can easily take him where he wants to go. He's half, then the trends are important, then we have to observe the trend where he should go and where he should not go. He should not attempt something that he cannot do and break himself up.

[Sadhguru again looks at his Tablet drawing of the volunteer]

So this aspect of...(pauses for a moment)

If you look at these simple numbers that I've put there, [Sadhguru assigned different numbers to different x's between the lines representing Ida and Pingala] they're not really numbers like that, it is, I've just arrived at my own numbers. They are numbers only for guidance; they're not numbers as numbers. It is not that if I say 8, there are 8 megawatts or something, (audience laughs) it's not like that. If you want to judge something 1 to 10, 0 to 10, ok this is 1, this is 2, this is 10, you know, in that context it is numbers. It is not numbers per se, it is only a guideline of numbers.

So now if you look at this map, what you see is Mooladhara is slightly imbalanced, needs a little more work. Swadhistana, not very strong but ok. Manipurika is good. Anahata, confused. You know what these are? You know which is which? Anahata is confused and a little bit of like that (makes wavy motion with hand). Visuddhi, nothing much has happened; as you were born, it is. Agna, ok, stable, nothing phenomenal, but there is potential.

When I say there is potential, that means it is not that others do not have potential, that means there aren't too many obstacles. With a little work, it'll happen. When we say there is not potential, it does not mean it is not possible. It is still possible but it'll take much more work to do it.


[Looks again back at the Tablet drawing of the volunteer's energy patterns]


I think because of a certain continuous emotional pattern, the system has become slightly skewed, which must be corrected. Hatha Yoga is the right thing to do. If you do proper hatha yoga, this slightly skewed positions that your energy system has taken will naturally get corrected. We can do something drastic and fix it, but sadhana is the best way of fixing it because it happens slowly.

See, you've gotten used to walking like this, (Sadhguru leans sideways) - suddenly tomorrow morning I fixed you up like this (sits straight), you will start thinking something is wrong with you. Yes, people even ask you, supposed you stopped drinking and you went among your drinking friends, they say, "What's wrong with you? What happened to you?" Yes? You were smoking all your life, one day you suddenly gave (it) up, you went with your smoking friends and they say, "What happened? What's wrong? What's the matter with you?" So even if correction happens too dramatically or suddenly, people will get disturbed by that. So it is best that the correction happens slowly, unless they're in a state of surrender.


If they're in a state of surrender, you can just correct them quickly, but otherwise if people have their own thought process attached to everything that happens to them, it is better correction happens in degrees.