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Sadhguru Exclusive
Prana: Moving the Chakras -Part 2 - Ep. 4 (4 of 5 on Prana)
16 minutes - 1998
Location: Isha Yoga Center
Transcript


Review Intro from Part 1:
You move your Anahata to your hand and you just touch somebody, they will burst with love. So life will become so multi-dimensional and so beautiful and blissful simply because your energy system is mobile. It's a completely different dimension of competence. So some of the most mobile chakras...let's look at this...

****Part 2***********

[Sadhguru is sitting typical cross-legged yogi-style and begins pointing to the traditional locations for the chakras on his body that everyone has seen in a million books, posters and videos]
If I sit here my chakras can be like this...swadhisthana, manipurika, anahata, vishuddi, agna, sahasrar (points at each traditional location)

Or it could be like this (throws arm/hand forward at audience indicating several feet outward)

Or it could be like this (throws arm/hand sideways indicating several feet outward)

It could be any which way.

Mooladhara is not mobile at all. It's there always (indicates to where his butt meets the chair he's sitting on). Swadhistana is very mobile. You can move it anywhere you want. Many things you can do (flutters hands all around his body) with this. It's a very powerful process - swadhistana. Because we just point at the genitals it is not about sexuality. Swadhistana means, "the abode of the self". If you live in a very physical way this will mean just sexuality. If you transcend your physicality this is a very powerful space. It's the very abode of self. So this is very mobile (moves hands out away and around his body).

Manipurika, not necessary to make it mobile. It's better that it's not mobile at all. It's there (traditional position) always. Manipurika could be mobile but that's not a good thing to do. It's not good to move your Manipurika too much. Some of the people who are into certain type of martial arts are making their Manipurika mobile to demonstrate certain things. (Sadhguru looks down gently). That is not good at all. So you don't move your Manipurika.

Swadhistana you can move. Anahata you can move. Vissuddhi, don't move. (shakes hand no). Agna is very mobile. (hands fly off upward). It's just anywhere. (Sadhguru looks up to the ceiling and flings hand up) You can move this just to another planet, or other universe if you want because it's very mobile. Because it is an instrument of perception. It can go anywhere. It has no problem. And moving it is safe and fantastic and wonderful because if one wants to perceive he has to move it.


*****side note*****

Notice to readers: this lecture was given to Sadhguru's direct disciples and Isha's daily volunteers. Originally it was not intended for the general public - so while Astral Plane Agna-Travel is safe for his disciples I don't know whether it's always safe for people going DIY - I'd guess it's probably more like "proceed at your own risk" for DIY-ers).


****back to the transcript*****

Right now unknowingly you're moving it. See....why we're insisting in our yoga program, even in a simple Isha yoga program for Inner Engineering(tm) keep your attention on me. Don't look at the carpet, don't look at the book, just be with me is because if you simply (suddenly hunches and stares - mimicing his disciples focusing on something with exclusive attention) - after sometime your Agna is out (throws hand foreward from his face). You understand?

If it (is) out and touches this (indicates with hands) instantly perception happens. Which you can never understand how - but suddenly you know life so much better. Suddenly you're conducting it so much better. Because unknowingly you threw your Agna out(ward) and touched. This is the most mobile chakra. It just goes out effortlessly. If you show enough interest in something it'll go out. This should go out because this is of receptivity. It must go out as much as possible.

Mooladhara can not go out. It can...but that's of a different nature (waves hands no). That is people who leave their body and go around and things...you know? That's a completely different thing.

Swadhistana if you can move out you can do fantastic things but it takes lots of work. Manipurika it's best you don't move. If you move it you don't move your body. You settle down in one place. Never move. So yogis who move their Manipurika won't leave their living quarters. They have a little cubicle. They will never step out of it. They will live only within that. Because they know once they move their Manipurika if they move their body they will not last long at all.

Anahata you can move. You can move a lot. (makes circular motion around himself). Already it is moving. For most people it's moving but not consciously. Moving going here and there (makes waving motions with hands)...getting tangled up.

Vishuddhi you can do phenomenal things but that is the most difficult chakra to work with. Even when we were doing the Dyanalinga (ie the Dyanalinga Temple) we could not train people for Vishuddhi. We did wonderfully with everything else but for Vishuddhi we could not because fortunately or unfortunately (throws up hands) or for whatever reason - the people who came with the necessary readiness and competence came (ie reincarnated) in female bodies. [video cuts to show very early younger Sadhguru photo - he still had black hair then - showing him teaching and training a class of female disciples].

And generally it is not within the sphere of a woman's emotion and thought to go for Vishuddhi. She will not go...usually. Not that she cannot go at all, she can, but 99% of the time she will not move in that direction. She will tend to go here (points to Anahata). She will tend to go here (points to Swadhistana). She will tend to go here (points to Agna). But Vishuddhi she always skips. So I tried to desperately train them in so many ways. [to prepare them for participating in consecrating the Dyanalinga Temple's infusion of Vishuddhi powers] But it just wouldn't work. Then we used somebody else to make it happen. You know the story.

[short story: Sadhguru says he finally had to enlist the aid of a dis-embodied yogi who was very strong in Vishuddhi power to complete the consecration of the Dyanalinga Temple. He says once the dis-embodied yogi realized what Sadhguru needed him for he became very willing because it meant he would ascend to higher planes of existence in exchange for giving up his Vishuddhi powers to the Dyanalinga instead].

***continuing transcript****

So we did a completely different kind of process to fulfill the Vishuddhi because neither the men who were with me nor the women who were with me - I couldn't get them up (makes reving up motion with his hand) to generate enough to get the Vishuddhi moving because it has always been the most difficult chakra. And that is why Shiva sits there.

There are some people who are not looking for the easy. He is...Shiva means you're always...you know? [Video cuts to painting of an athletically lean but muscular, bearded and blue-tinged yogi in dreadlocks touching the hollow pit of his throat with his right hand ring finger].



All the yogis applying Vibhuti on their Vishuddhi is because this is Shiva's center. He mastered this and it turned blue. [note: Vibhuti is the sacred ash of burnt wood. It's typically ash that's had mantras and/or rituals done over it.]

[My note: Sadhguru here is referring to Adiyogi - the world's first known yogi who has been given the honorific "Shiva" in Hindu lore in designation that the world's first-known yogi attained to "that about which nothing can be said"]


****Continuing transcript****

If one has some mastery of his Vishuddhi his whole aura will turn electric blue. It is this type of aura which allows you to function in the world in a way that other people think is superhuman. So this is why all the Indian gods are painted blue. [my note: there are some Indian goddesses also painted blue like this too]. They're considered blue-bodied. Rama is blue-bodied. Krishna is blue-bodied. Shiva (ie Adiyogi) is blue-bodied. What they are saying is...it is not that their skin was blue. It is just that when you look at them with a certain level of awareness you will see them blue because their aura has become electric blue. And this aura you wear because it is only with this aura you can show immense capability with the world. All these 3 chose to be active, dynamically active in the world so they wore the blue aura. If you don't wish to be so active then you wear the white aura because it's much more pleasant and better.

Blue is electric. It's like....(waves hands)...scorpion bite. [Video cuts to another yogi sitting on a mountain ledge with hand extended toward a scorpion]. This is also one of the reasons why the yogis take scorpion bites...is...they're hoping their aura will become blue. It actually does. Poison always turns you blue. You know this? (gazes questioningly at audience) No? (a few audience member laugh softly and Sadhguru smiles)

If somebody is poisoned their body turns blue when they die. So blue is a dangerous space to go. But phenomenally capable space if you know how to go into it properly. So yogis take bites from the scorpion. One (other) way is to keep themselves awake. So one little (makes sharp bite motion with hand) 'Tkk!' - you'll stay awake for 3 days. And it'll go (makes wavy motion with hands). It's not always pain. It just fires up your nervous system in such a way... (draws long breath) Pain means...an incredible level of pain. It's not like any other pain a human being experiences because it just hits the nervous system. But if you start laughing you can never stop. You will laugh and laugh and laugh. If you have enough control, if you become meditative...just there....

Scorpion bite (makes sudden bite motion to finger pad) and you just sit there (demonstrates sitting with eyes slightly closed gazing gently at Agna region and head tilted slightly up)...that's it. It's a completely different kind of intoxicant. Which keeps you aware and intoxicated at the same time.

So they want to become like Shiva (Adiyogi), blue-bodied. Intoxicated (ie Sadhguru typically uses intoxicated as a synonym for ecstasy), aware. So they're using an external aid.

The nature of Vishuddhi is that..(stops for a moment)...and that is why the whole story of Shiva drank up all the poison in the universe and his wife (Parvati) saw he drank this up and he's going to die because he drank too much. Everything that is there in the universe he drank it up. So she held him by the throat. So that it doesn't go to the rest of his body it just stopped here (points to his throat pit). So he's known as Neelakantha or Vishakanta which means his throat is full of poison but it did not enter his body. It gave him an aura of blue. But he did not die from that because it was stopped at Vishuddhi. And the word Vishuddhi just means this - Vishuddhi means 'filter'.

If there's anyone who wants to work on Vishuddhi they must dedicate their life to it. And we would love to work on them because it is rare. It is rare to generate....(trails off)... Even to find (Sadhguru's emphasis) a human being like that who wants to work in that direction [is rare]. So...having a lot of young people coming up...(Sadhguru stops and grins looking at the audience)...in future we may see some. (Nods head yes and grins even more).

So Vishuddhi is the most difficult space (Sadhguru's emphasis) - moving it will be a phenomenal thing. But it takes phenomenal amount of work. It's much, much easier - Agna is very easy to move.

Next easiest thing to move is Anahata. The next is Swadhistana. In that order. So right now to receive. To be able to move Agna is good enough. You don't have to do anything. Just pay absolute attention. (Sadhguru demonstrates gazing intently at an object toward the audience for several seconds). And you will see everything...just like that.

Absolute attention means...(looks thoughtful)...see the problem with most people's mind that they have not trained their mind enough - if they pay attention - mind is trying to make conclusions and collect conclusions. Once you collect conclusion perception is destroyed.


*****Side commentary on the above*****

My note: It's also a sign that one's system doesn't have enough Akash/Akasha yet so the mind is doing what it naturally does anyway - thinking and occasionally concluding. Akash/Akasha aids in choosing a new trajectory for opening up access to completely new kinds of 'intelligence' within the human body that do not rely upon the 'thinking track-in-space' to get things done. One of the main goals in Yoga and Magic is to bring these unconscious processes under conscious awareness and control. Sadhguru says this is so that even if outside events occur that you can't control (like say, a Long Descent) since outside events are never 100% under one's sole control - you'll have maximum ability to walk out of any situation with your own well being intact.


****And now back to the Transcript*****

See right now. Just right now I'm looking at her (gazes at audience member). "Oh! This is a woman." My mind made a conclusion. (Shakes head no slowly). Now, one conclusion in my mind - now my perception is clouded - 'Oh! This is a woman!' If she is something else I cannot see it. So like this mind is making conclusions. To train the mind to not make any conclusion and simply look at her like this [gazes softly at his disciple] - simply - not making any conclusion - it looks like a waste of time - (sits up abruptly) 'What is happening? What is the use?'. No. If you do not understand what is the use of attention you have missed life completely.

Because if at all, if you know anything, you know only because of your attention, isn't it? Yes or no? (looks questioningly at the audience).

Attention without making conclusions. Simply paying attention (points to his eye then toward the woman in the audience). (Shakes head no) I don't make a conclusion whether this is a man or a woman or this or that - Simply - if you can simply pay attention without making conclusions. Conclusions look like you're accumulating knowledge, yes, but they're conclusions. They're only useful for survival process. They're not useful for further exploration of life.

So Agna is very easy to throw out. But because of conclusions it gets restricted. So Hatha Yoga has all the necessary ingredients within itself - in the practice itself - if you listen to the instructions carefully and put that into practice. The practice itself has this that it will train your mind not to make conclusions (points to Agna then draws sightline to audience member) but just to pay attention. Going on paying attention to everything without making any conclusion. Now Agna will travel far. Wherever it goes it will know that. The moment it touches it will know that. You don't have to consciously know it. It will just know that. When you want it, it will all come out. There is no need to remember (pretends he's writing down a list) "Ok, I need to remember this. Ok. Ok. Ok" (mimics numbering things on his notepad).

This is just rudimentary way of learning. It doesn't matter how many times you tell them in the program (mimics disciple furiously writing down notes from an Isha yoga class and mimics disciple answering Sadhguru, "This is my way of learning!") [audience laughs].

This is not learning. Because this damn thing that's spoken by somebody can be recorded, printed. You don't have to keep it in your head and burden yourself. Isn't it? So Agna will travel easy. Anahata will travel easy. [Makes orbiting motion with hand] These 2 things can be spread around. Your attention and your emotion could easily spread. If other aspects of your body has to be moved it'll take (a) little more competence to do that.

Sadhguru Exclusive
Prana: Sadhguru Maps a Person's Energy System - Ep. 2 (of 5 on Prana)
19 minutes - 1998
Transcript



If you read the basic map of one's prana, you know their past, present and future. Everything about that person because in a way, your life is just a manifestation of your energies, how they function. So with the yogic system, what you're trying to do is to change how it functions from an unconscious repetition of things, or it is right now being heavily manipulated by the memory bank that one has or the karmic structure that one has - accordingly the energy...energy is moving according to the...[pause]

See in your intelligence today, as you understand intelligence, without memory your intelligence would be nothing, isn't it? Yes? See, you walk into this village, let's say one 8 year old smart kid from city comes, from a good family, in a good school and he comes here, a 8 year old kid in this tribal village will gape at him, not because he's any less intelligent, simply because he doesn't have the memory that that (other) boy has, and suddenly he looks like a fool because his intelligence is crippled without necessary memory.

So that is one level. Socially it is true, your memory seems to make you look better than others, but existentially it is your memory which is crippling you. This is why somebody said, "Those who stand first here will be last there. Those who stand last here will stand first there" because what seems to be smart on the social level is working against an individual human being, which he never understands.

So your social smartness, your success in the world, you handle it with a certain distance. It is needed for us to live, but we don't have to make that our qualification. Today how famous I am, how much money we have, what are we - this should not determine who I am. These things are there, these things will allow us to work better in the world, and that's all - that should not determine. But unfortunately for most human beings, that's all. That determines who they are within themselves. Who you are in the world is determined by these things, that's okay, that is the way of the world. But who you are within yourself should not be determined by this, because this is what is called as karma. The memory that you have restrains and directs your energy in the way it functions.

So right now I don't want to go into an individual's life, but I thought if I show you a comparison....

[Sadhguru looks to a huge projector screen hooked up to his Tablet that shows an outline that maps of a basic, major energy flows. The map is as follows: At the bottom is an enormous Infinity Loop connected to 2 upward lines at the Loop's center and the lines - are topped off by a big X. Between the 2 upward lines are X's at certain intervals.]

Sadhguru asks for a volunteer from the audience. An athletic looking young woman in yoga pants gets up and comes forward and he asks her to hold her hands outward like DaVinci's famous drawing. Sadhguru, with his hands about an inch away - hovers his hand down then up along her spine and then makes a few additional sketches on his tablet drawing and assigns some number tags to some of the X's along the upward column. The woman bows to him then sits back down and Sadhguru does praying hands and inclines slightly to her in turn.]

Sadhguru continues:

One reason is out of sheer ignorance, another reason why people have usually been talking only of 7 chakras, not 114 is, one reason is because the popular books could not think beyond 7; (Sadhguru shakes his head no) leave that part. But another reason why they only spoke about seven, not the others is...

If you look at the southern mysticism, the Siddhas of the south (southern India) will only talk about 5, they won't talk about 7. When they're teaching people anything, they talk only about 5, because Mooladhara is the source. The source is infinite, that's why the symbolism. (He's referring to his Tablet drawing demonstration showing the human energy body base symbolized with the figure 8 Infinity Loop.)

When you sit naturally, it's - the easiest way to depict you is like this (makes Infinity Loop figure 8 with his hands). If you wear these new yoga clothes, you very much look like that you know (audience laughs and Sadhguru grins). Because this is the source. The Mooladhara does not only mean a foundation for this life, it is connection with the source. So that which is connected with the source is infinite. And the uppermost one is this (he refers to the huge X in his demo drawing that tops the 2 primary energy lines), because if the road is closed, this is the symbol, isn't it (makes X in the air with his hands)? Because it's not yet ready, it's not there. The Sahasrar (Crown Chakra) doesn't exist for most people; it is yet to manifest.

It was manifest to some extent when you were just born. When you were just born, there was a soft spot on top of your head. You know, you've handled little infants (Sadhguru points to the top of his own head). You will see there is not bone formation here, just the skin. Actually it'll be palpitating if you watch a little baby, tup, tup, tup, tup it'll be going like this, because this (Sahasrar) is open. But now it is closed because keeping that open and trying to live will be dangerous.

All the things that physical activity that one does and keeping the Sahasrar open will be dangerous. So once it opens up again, not physically but energy-wise when it opens up, you will see sages either dreadlock their hair or tie it up or use something else to hold it because life becomes a little fragile.

It becomes immensely capable but physical life becomes fragile. To hold the physicality with you, to hold the physical body with you when the top end is open, it needs a certain skill and a certain amount of support, otherwise one will leave. So usually with 90% or more the moment of enlightenment and moment of leaving the body is same, because once it opens up, they don't have the necessary skill to hold it, and that is where Hatha Yoga becomes all important. If one has not established his body in a proper way, what is a great blessing (ascension) also ends his life. The greatest blessing will become the end of who you are. Nothing wrong with it, it is just that if you stay around you could be useful.

As far as that life is concerned, if it leaves there's really no problem, it's wonderful to leave. But if it reaches that point and stays, it could be very useful for every other life (here).

[Sadhguru looks again at the projection of his drawing of the volunteer's energy system.]
Now, among these 7, we are only looking at the 6 here, because 7 is absent, 7 is not there yet. 7 needs to be worked at. If these 6 are sufficiently enhanced, then it'll touch the 7th. You should not touch the Sahasrar simply, because if such a thing happens you will not be able to be stable in your body. So establishing and stabilizing the physical body is very important.

Simply people are talking about 7 chakras - the 7th one is not for people who want to live. If you go there you cross the borders of physicality. So if you want to cross the border and still be here, you must have diplomatic immunity. (Audience laughs and Sadhguru grins) Yes?
Otherwise they won't send you back. If you want to go there and again come back, you need a certain immunity, otherwise you will leave.

So Hatha Yoga is largely concerned with the 5 in the center. The Mooladhara we are only trying to close it. Close it means we are trying to stabilize and close it, we are not trying to enhance it. We are trying to enhance only the 5 because it's these 5 which sustain life. Right now in the making of this building, the foundation need not do anything; it has to just stay there, that's all. So Mooladhara has to just stay there, it need not do anything. If it connects you with outside life, then your life will become very topsy-turvy.

People who go into occult practices, they want their Mooladhara to be open and they want to connect with life so that the base powers will become very strong in them. This is a sure way of ensuring no spiritual process will ever happen to you. Once you open up your Mooladhara and connect to life from the downward trend of the body, then you cannot connect with the upper moving forces of your life-structure.

So we just want to seal the foundation and we don't want to hit the top, we want to just stabilize the 5 in such a way when some day we hit the top, our body is so stable it can hold it (open Sahasrar) and experience it, not fuse out.

So Hatha Yoga is essentially concerned with these 5 chakras. These 5 chakras are associated with the 108 of the remaining chakras. These 5 handle all of the 108. So it is these 108 that we can work with. It is only these 108 that we can enhance and transform. The base one, there is nothing to do; we just have to hold it stable. And the top one, it's not yet time to touch. Till we have sufficient mastery over this, we should not touch that.

[Sadhguru looks at his Tablet drawing of the volunteer again]

Now, if we look at this, let's forget whose image this is, ok, this is like an energy x-ray for immediate purposes. We can make a much elaborate one, but that would take much more involvement. This is for immediate.

Somebody comes and sits in front of me, now they will say, "Sadhguru, I want to become a brahmachari!" (Sadhguru pretends to be intense, demanding ascetic-disciple-wanna-be and audience laughs).

I say, "Close your eyes and sit" and they sit, then I say, "Let's get you married in 6 months." (Sadhguru acts again like boisterous, demanding ascetic-disciple-wanna-be)."No Sadhguru! I want to be brahmachari!" (Audience laughs)

I say, "It's alright, you get married, after that we will see when your wife doesn't want you. (Audience bursts out with loud laughter and Sadhguru laughs) You can become a brahmachari."
"She will make a brahmachari out of you, not me." (Audience laughs again).

Because your energies are in a certain way, either you must do phenomenal sadhana to correct that or you better go that way. So if there is phenomenal will in a person, Or there is devotion - sense of surrender, then whichever way you are it can be fixed.

But you don't see that will, that commitment, that devotion and that sense of surrender, it's better go by the patterns of your life. It's like - if you want to fly, you know if the winds are...today winds are nice and quiet, but 3 days ago you saw the winds were blowing at 35-40 knots, now you don't try to fly, you don't try to take off in that wind if you have a weak machine. But you have a very powerful machine. You have a very powerful machine, you don't care what's the wind, you anyway take off. But if you don't have a very powerful machine, you don't try to take off in that kind of weather. In that kind of weather you better go with the wind, that's safer for you. But you are very powerful, then it doesn't matter wind is like this, but you go like this (ie.takeoff).


So similarly, if a person is of extraordinary will or he's willing to give up his will, he's becoming willing means he has no will of his own. If he has an extraordinary will we can take him where he wants to go. Or he has no will, then we can easily take him where he wants to go. He's half, then the trends are important, then we have to observe the trend where he should go and where he should not go. He should not attempt something that he cannot do and break himself up.

[Sadhguru again looks at his Tablet drawing of the volunteer]

So this aspect of...(pauses for a moment)

If you look at these simple numbers that I've put there, [Sadhguru assigned different numbers to different x's between the lines representing Ida and Pingala] they're not really numbers like that, it is, I've just arrived at my own numbers. They are numbers only for guidance; they're not numbers as numbers. It is not that if I say 8, there are 8 megawatts or something, (audience laughs) it's not like that. If you want to judge something 1 to 10, 0 to 10, ok this is 1, this is 2, this is 10, you know, in that context it is numbers. It is not numbers per se, it is only a guideline of numbers.

So now if you look at this map, what you see is Mooladhara is slightly imbalanced, needs a little more work. Swadhistana, not very strong but ok. Manipurika is good. Anahata, confused. You know what these are? You know which is which? Anahata is confused and a little bit of like that (makes wavy motion with hand). Visuddhi, nothing much has happened; as you were born, it is. Agna, ok, stable, nothing phenomenal, but there is potential.

When I say there is potential, that means it is not that others do not have potential, that means there aren't too many obstacles. With a little work, it'll happen. When we say there is not potential, it does not mean it is not possible. It is still possible but it'll take much more work to do it.


[Looks again back at the Tablet drawing of the volunteer's energy patterns]


I think because of a certain continuous emotional pattern, the system has become slightly skewed, which must be corrected. Hatha Yoga is the right thing to do. If you do proper hatha yoga, this slightly skewed positions that your energy system has taken will naturally get corrected. We can do something drastic and fix it, but sadhana is the best way of fixing it because it happens slowly.

See, you've gotten used to walking like this, (Sadhguru leans sideways) - suddenly tomorrow morning I fixed you up like this (sits straight), you will start thinking something is wrong with you. Yes, people even ask you, supposed you stopped drinking and you went among your drinking friends, they say, "What's wrong with you? What happened to you?" Yes? You were smoking all your life, one day you suddenly gave (it) up, you went with your smoking friends and they say, "What happened? What's wrong? What's the matter with you?" So even if correction happens too dramatically or suddenly, people will get disturbed by that. So it is best that the correction happens slowly, unless they're in a state of surrender.


If they're in a state of surrender, you can just correct them quickly, but otherwise if people have their own thought process attached to everything that happens to them, it is better correction happens in degrees.